Epstein / Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor / Maxwell

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ColinBellsjockstrap said:
Sarah Ferguson arriving at the palace yesterday..

She obviously finds something to laugh about.

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Is she not allowed to laugh?
 
Ja Salford Blue said:
But this happened years ago, why was it never in the news when he (Epstein) first got convicted?
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It was. He had to resign from his post as the UK's Trade Envoy when those photos of him and Epstein in Central Park emerged.

But the story has been given fresh impetus by Virginia Roberts' allegations against him (which I think were first made in 2015), Esptein's subsequent arrest and eventual death.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
I heard on the news that he had been removed from civil list monies.
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I think only Lizzie and Charles are on the civil list now. It was part of the deal for the Queen around payment / non payment of taxes. I may be slightly wrong but its something like instead if paying taxes she pays what was the civil list to all entitled to it except herself and Charlie.
 
citykev28 said:
Is she not allowed to laugh?
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It just sums her up, completely insensitive, the woman is a disgrace.

She accepted money (apparently) off Epstein several years ago when she got into financial difficulty

Her ex husband had just been fired, his career is in tatters, but she seems like she hasn't a care in the world.
 
ColinBellsjockstrap said:
It just sums her up, completely insensitive, the woman is a disgrace.

She accepted money (apparently) off Epstein several years ago when she got into financial difficulty

Her ex husband had just been fired, his career is in tatters, but she seems like she hasn't a care in the world.
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It’s a moment in time. She wasn’t told “we’re going to take a picture to sum up your feelings over this scandal...ready?”

Have you never smiled at someone at a funeral? Laughed? I know I have. When I worked in a HR office, a bloke came in to hand a sick note in. He’d found out he had cancer. He said to me “At least I can watch all the World Cup.”

The truth is, we don’t know what was said at that moment to make her laugh. Epstein and Prince Andrew are the guilty ones in this, not her for a moment in time.
 
citykev28 said:
It’s a moment in time. She wasn’t told “we’re going to take a picture to sum up your feelings over this scandal...ready?”

Have you never smiled at someone at a funeral? Laughed? I know I have. When I worked in a HR office, a bloke came in to hand a sick note in. He’d found out he had cancer. He said to me “At least I can watch all the World Cup.”

The truth is, we don’t know what was said at that moment to make her laugh. Epstein and Prince Andrew are the guilty ones in this, not her for a moment in time.
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Well, on reflection, perhaps I was a bit harsh, but I just thought it was rather inappropriate at the current time.
 
ColinBellsjockstrap said:
It just sums her up, completely insensitive, the woman is a disgrace.

She accepted money (apparently) off Epstein several years ago when she got into financial difficulty

Her ex husband had just been fired, his career is in tatters, but she seems like she hasn't a care in the world.
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As someone who can be very inappropriate i know a fellow one when i see one ha
 
Police have defended the decision not to pursue a full investigation of the allegations made against Prince Andrew.

Virginia Roberts-Giuffre says she was trafficked by convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and allegedly had sex with Prince Andrew in 2001 when she was 17 years old.

The prince has repeatedly denied he had "any form of sexual contact or relationship" with Mrs Roberts-Giuffre, adding "any claim to the contrary is false and without foundation".

Met Police Commander Alex Murray said in July 2015 the force confirmed it had received an allegation of non-recent trafficking for sexual exploitation made against a US national, Jeffrey Epstein, and a British woman.

He said the allegation related to events which took place outside of the UK as well as an allegation of trafficking to London in March 2001.

Mr Murray said: "The MPS always takes any allegations concerning sexual exploitation seriously.

"Officers assessed the available evidence, interviewed the complainant and obtained early investigative advice from the Crown Prosecution Service."

He added: "Following the legal advice, it was clear that any investigation into human trafficking would be largely focused on activities and relationships outside the UK.

"We therefore concluded that the MPS was not the appropriate authority to conduct enquiries in these circumstances and, in November 2016, a decision was made that this matter would not proceed to a full criminal investigation."

After Epstein died in August, Mr Murray said the MPS reviewed the decision making and added its position remains unchanged.

He said: "The MPS has liaised with other law enforcement organisations but has not received a formal request asking for assistance in connection with this allegation."

The police defending their decision comes as BBC Panorama released a trailer ahead of its interview with Mrs Roberts-Giuffre expected to air on Monday.

In the clip, she said: "He knows what happened, I know what happened and there's only one of us telling the truth."
 
karen7 said:
Police have defended the decision not to pursue a full investigation of the allegations made against Prince Andrew.

Virginia Roberts-Giuffre says she was trafficked by convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and allegedly had sex with Prince Andrew in 2001 when she was 17 years old.

The prince has repeatedly denied he had "any form of sexual contact or relationship" with Mrs Roberts-Giuffre, adding "any claim to the contrary is false and without foundation".

Met Police Commander Alex Murray said in July 2015 the force confirmed it had received an allegation of non-recent trafficking for sexual exploitation made against a US national, Jeffrey Epstein, and a British woman.

He said the allegation related to events which took place outside of the UK as well as an allegation of trafficking to London in March 2001.

Mr Murray said: "The MPS always takes any allegations concerning sexual exploitation seriously.

"Officers assessed the available evidence, interviewed the complainant and obtained early investigative advice from the Crown Prosecution Service."

He added: "Following the legal advice, it was clear that any investigation into human trafficking would be largely focused on activities and relationships outside the UK.

"We therefore concluded that the MPS was not the appropriate authority to conduct enquiries in these circumstances and, in November 2016, a decision was made that this matter would not proceed to a full criminal investigation."

After Epstein died in August, Mr Murray said the MPS reviewed the decision making and added its position remains unchanged.

He said: "The MPS has liaised with other law enforcement organisations but has not received a formal request asking for assistance in connection with this allegation."

The police defending their decision comes as BBC Panorama released a trailer ahead of its interview with Mrs Roberts-Giuffre expected to air on Monday.

In the clip, she said: "He knows what happened, I know what happened and there's only one of us telling the truth."
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They Subbed the case to Merseyside police so it was expected...
 
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