Epstein / Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor / Maxwell

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Octavian said:
He’s not even been found guilty and she’s got rid of him!

There’s nothing she’d do you’d support because you cannot see beyond the end of your republican nose.
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Ah, in a few comments you have successfully worked out my entire personality. Congratulations Sherlock, you've done it again.
 
Octavian said:
Think some owe the Queen an apology on here!
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Why? It was suggested that she knew about his whereabouts and the people in which he associated with. The fact she’s now stripped him of some titles etc doesn’t change that one iota. It’s only because he’s lost in his battle to not go to court that this has happened, if he’s got off on those technicalities I very much doubt that this would have happened.
 
inchy14 said:
Why? It was suggested that she knew about his whereabouts and the people in which he associated with. The fact she’s now stripped him of some titles etc doesn’t change that one iota. It’s only because he’s lost in his battle to not go to court that this has happened, if he’s got off on those technicalities I very much doubt that this would have happened.
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More guess work.

He’s been found guilty of nothing and she’s completely got rid of him.

How do you people actually want from her?

You just want her gone just admit it.
 
Stripped of his titles, he's brought shame on the royal family, how must his own daughters be feeling knowing their dad was flying underage girls around the world for his own sexual gratification, they were the same age as them.
Get the sexual predator on trial, don't settle out of court, get him banged up for years and hope every nonce on the block dry bums the upper class prick who thought he was above the law.
 
It’s happening right in front of your eyes fella. You think Charlie will get the respect the mother has? The PR machine is in overdrive buffing up the image of the William and the adorable Kate. Desperate attempt at clinging on to cash cow they’ve enjoyed for centuries.
princes and princesses…utter nonsense.
 
kaz7 said:
You have to understand what grooming kids does to them , it brainwashes them , they might be under duress ,trafficed, it is victim blaming without ever being in their shoes
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
Without a shadow of doubt, but the more I have read this week from some of the other girls, it appears she played an active role in procurement, under the guise of them first earning an easy $300 dollars, girls much younger than her.
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
I'm sorry, but when a 17-year-old girl rings in a 14-year-old, supposedly a friend, then leaves that girl in a room with Epstein and then tells her she did a good job, I struggle with it.

I don't profess to understand it, I just have little respect for someone who has snares others into the abuse.

As you would expect, some of these girls put her in the same bracket as Maxwell.
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This is not a unique situation, it's common practice in these sorts of grooming scenarios and I think there's a fairly well established procedure of not prosectuing these older children who're coerced and threatened into recruiting younger children.

IIRC lots of thes Epstein/Maxwell victims in Florida did the same thing, it's in the Netflix documentary series, and they weren't prosecuted because it was understood they were minors, they were victims, there's no public interest in going after them (they're not a threat to anyone now) and they were very good witnesses to go after the real perpetrators if given immunity and therefore freedom to speak.


You certainly cannot compare it to Maxwell who was in her 30's and already incredibly wealthy when she started her relationship with Epstein.
 
Pedestrian said:
It’s happening right in front of your eyes fella. You think Charlie will get the respect the mother has? The PR machine is in overdrive buffing up the image of the William and the adorable Kate. Desperate attempt at clinging on to cash cow they’ve enjoyed for centuries.
princes and princesses…utter nonsense.
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William and Kate are extremely popular as public figures. When the Queen goes there will be an enormous outpouring of grief across the nation that will probably see Charlie through until he passes it on to his far more popular son.

Only 23% voted negative feeling in the latest Yougov poll about Charles. William it’s 12%.

The monarchy will still be here in hundreds of years.
 
domalino said:
This is not a unique situation, it's common practice in these sorts of grooming scenarios and I think there's a fairly well established procedure of not prosectuing these older children who're coerced and threatened into recruiting younger children.

IIRC lots of thes Epstein/Maxwell victims in Florida did the same thing, it's in the Netflix documentary series, and they weren't prosecuted because it was understood they were minors, they were victims, there's no public interest in going after them (they're not a threat to anyone now) and they were very good witnesses to go after the real perpetrators if given immunity and therefore freedom to speak.


You certainly cannot compare it to Maxwell who was in her 30's and already incredibly wealthy when she started her relationship with Epstein.
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Prosecutors won’t go for them and the authorities won’t either for the commitment to full cooperation.

Andrew’s victim isn’t a threat to society now so there’s little point when you can get those who should have known much better.
 
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