Epstein / Prince Andrew / Maxwell

[sir baconface]

I wish I could charge £25 a word!

And £50 for the long ones? ;)

 

[kaz7]

This. Cnut as he is, Andrew doesn’t monopolise dodginess.

Total lack of understanding of the whole situation

 

[sir baconface]

Total lack of understanding of the whole situation

That’s an unusually frank admission, kaz.

 

[kaz7]

I have to say i am not surprised so many of you are victim blaming , because it is a woman and men are sexist to some degree or other

I'm out

 

[Bazzmand Show]

As if people are actually okay with fucking a 17 year old. 17! 12 months out of high school. Illegal, maybe not, weird as fuck and a bit noncey, most definitely.

This girl has been trafficked to a different country then coerced into having sex with much older men. Whole thing is fucking disgusting

At 17 people are sexually active, I agree that it's weird - but theres a reason it's not illegal for someone to sleep with people 16 or older.

Anthony Kiedes from the Red Hot Chilli Peppers was dating an 18 year old girl from Australia when he was at the age of 50. I didn't necessarily see huge outcry about that at the time.

The issue here for me is not the age gap or the fact she was 17, but the surrounding topic of the fact she was trafficked and potentially coerced into it.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

At 17 people are sexually active, I agree that it's weird - but theres a reason it's not illegal for someone to sleep with people 16 or older.

Anthony Kiedes from the Red Hot Chilli Peppers was dating an 18 year old girl from Australia when he was at the age of 50. I didn't necessarily see huge outcry about that at the time.

The issue here for me is not the age gap or the fact she was 17, but the surrounding topic of the fact she was trafficked and potentially coerced into it.

That is the very issue in the whole thing. Whether Prince Andrew knew she was, or whether the lady could prove that he knew she was, would be at the core of any civil trial and resolving that is probably unachievable, hence a settlement that both parties seem satisfied with. The talk of rape, noncery, paedo etc is silly and misunderstanding, probably borne out of such words being such emotive subjects. The issue is in bold.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Does the age of consent mean that anyone under that age isn’t legally allowed to give consent and therefore it would be classed as rape?

No. In the UK a 13-15 year old is capable of giving consent to sex even though it is an offence to have sex (or sexual contact) with them (the offence being sexual activity with a child, maximum sentence 14 years). Anyone under the age 13 is deemed incapable of giving consent and therefore sex with them is deemed to be rape, irrespective.

It’s a common misconception that sex with someone under the age of 16 is automatically rape.

 

[Elbow beards]

I have to say i am not surprised so many of you are victim blaming , because it is a woman and men are sexist to some degree or other

I'm out

Accuses men of being sexist, with a completely sexist comment. Hmmm.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

As if people are actually okay with fucking a 17 year old. 17!

Who on this thread is ok with it?

 

[bluemonkey71]

I have to say i am not surprised so many of you are victim blaming , because it is a woman and men are sexist to some degree or other

I'm out

of the kitchen? ;)