Erling Haaland

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EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
Said it from the start he will go to bayern ready replacement for lewandowski
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EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
If it was a choice of between Haaland or mbappe it would be the big fella
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EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
Haaland is a must next summer with or without pep
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EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
Haaland would be missing piece of the jigsaw,pay whatever the want just fucking buy him.
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EL APACHE TEVEZ said:
Haaland and Grealish in the summer
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doobyedoobye said:
Have we ever had a situation previously where one potential signing could make such an impact
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It’s what I have been saying... the last time an opportunity like this presented itself was Mbappe, and we tried to get him but were rejected — it wasn’t a financial impediment. They don’t come along very often

Let’s assume (I really don’t want to jinx it, so take this as merely hypothetical) that we win a certain continental competition. I doubt the club wouldn’t give Pep a signing like this in return
 
There was a through ball to Kev in the first half last night when the defender covered across and I thought for Erling that would have been a genuine chance.

He would add so much to our team.
 
I really really want to see him here. Should it happen I will be prepared to wait a year for him to get used to our style as he probably would have to add a lot of new skills and tasks to fit in. All worth it even if it would mean he would be less of the goal-monster he is today. He'd still put one or two away.
 
bobom said:
If Haaland was watching last night, he'd have seen a huge opportunity in our team for a striker who's good at being in the right place at the right time and who can finish.
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No he’d have seen a team where every player closes down like a mad man, runs his socks off for the full 90+ and employs fast 1 and 2 touch football in very small spaces.
He’d have seen us play a game that’s so far outside his skill set and comfort zone that he’d know that we’d need to play a different system to accommodate him.

He’s great in a side like Dortmund where they generally play on the counter and he has plenty of space to run into but that’s not a mainstay of our game is it?

Maybe we plan to alter our way of playing to accommodate a generational talent?
If so then please bring him in and I’ll watch with keen interest, but if you’ve seen him play then you’d know he’d have looked lost trying to do what we did on that pitch last night.

Conversely, if Grealish was watching then he’d have seen us play in a manner that was a perfect fit for him.
I’m not saying that Grealish is a better player, just that there are horses for courses and Haaland would look like a war horse doing dressage if played in our current side and to our current style.
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
No he’d have seen a team where every player closes down like a mad man, runs his socks off for the full 90+ and employs fast 1 and 2 touch football in very small spaces.
He’d have seen us play a game that’s so far outside his skill set and comfort zone that he’d know that we’d need to play a different system to accommodate him.

He’s great in a side like Dortmund where they generally play on the counter and he has plenty of space to run into but that’s not a mainstay of our game is it?

Maybe we plan to alter our way of playing to accommodate a generational talent?
If so then please bring him in and I’ll watch with keen interest, but if you’ve seen him play then you’d know he’d have looked lost trying to do what we did on that pitch last night.

Conversely, if Grealish was watching then he’d have seen us play in a manner that was a perfect fit for him.
I’m not saying that Grealish is a better player, just that there are horses for courses and Haaland would look like a war horse doing dressage if played in our current side and to our current style.
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Disagree, I think Haaland went out of his way to show in that Dortmund game he is more than someone who is stood on the shoulder of a defender.

He dropped in and out of midfield, popped passes around, great ball through for the Reus goal for example.

Pep has said many times before, anyone can get better technically. No matter your age or experience. What you can't teach is instinct, being 6ft+ and being freakishly fast and strong.
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
No he’d have seen a team where every player closes down like a mad man, runs his socks off for the full 90+ and employs fast 1 and 2 touch football in very small spaces.
He’d have seen us play a game that’s so far outside his skill set and comfort zone that he’d know that we’d need to play a different system to accommodate him.

He’s great in a side like Dortmund where they generally play on the counter and he has plenty of space to run into but that’s not a mainstay of our game is it?

Maybe we plan to alter our way of playing to accommodate a generational talent?
If so then please bring him in and I’ll watch with keen interest, but if you’ve seen him play then you’d know he’d have looked lost trying to do what we did on that pitch last night.

Conversely, if Grealish was watching then he’d have seen us play in a manner that was a perfect fit for him.
I’m not saying that Grealish is a better player, just that there are horses for courses and Haaland would look like a war horse doing dressage if played in our current side and to our current style.
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He'd also have seen a group of elite players who've been coached to the maximum of their talent. If he wants to fulfil his potential then Pep is the best coach out there.

The same was said of Aguero when Pep arrived, that he couldn't adapt to Guardiola's approach. Haaland is 20 years old.
 
decmancity said:
Disagree, I think Haaland went out of his way to show in that Dortmund game he is more than someone who is stood on the shoulder of a defender.

He dropped in and out of midfield, popped passes around, great ball through for the Reus goal for example.

Pep has said many times before, anyone can get better technically. No matter your age or experience. What you can't teach is instinct, being 6ft+ and being freakishly fast and strong.
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I‘m not arguing against him being recognised as a fantastic player. I said he was a generational talent.
However, the fact is that he’s not the right shape physically to do what we are currently doing as a team.
In the same way that a big fast lad like Usain Bolt is a fantastic runner (and physically perfect for the 100 & 200M) but would be useless if you decided to run him in 5,000 & 10,000M races, Haaland is not built to run all day and play tricky little patterns in very tight spaces like Mahrez or Bernardo or Foden etc.

I’ve also not said that he couldn’t play for us under any circumstances. I was responding to a post that said that Haaland would look at how we played last night and think that he’d fit in perfectly as a striker - because it was a daft observation.
Especially as our success on the field was achieved by playing a system that required everyone to run their bollox off and didn’t use a striker.

A more correct observation would have said that Haaland would have seen from last nights fantastic performance that we’d need to make profound changes our system to accommodate a player with his physique and his skill set.
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
I‘m not arguing against him being recognised as a fantastic player. I said he was a generational talent.
However, the fact is that he’s not the right shape physically to do what we are currently doing as a team.
In the same way that a big fast lad like Usain Bolt is a fantastic runner (and physically perfect for the 100 & 200M) but would be useless if you decided to run him in 5,000 & 10,000M races, Haaland is not built to run all day and play tricky little patterns in very tight spaces like Mahrez or Bernardo or Foden etc.

I’ve also not said that he couldn’t play for us under any circumstances. I was responding to a post that said that Haaland would look at how we played last night and think that he’d fit in perfectly as a striker - because it was a daft observation.
Especially as our success on the field was achieved by playing a system that required everyone to run their bollox off and didn’t use a striker.

A more correct observation would have said that Haaland would have seen from last nights fantastic performance that we’d need to make profound changes our system to accommodate a player with his physique and his skill set.
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Those crosses from KDB and Walker though he would have been on the end of though surely. I agree, leave the patterns and triangles to Foden, Bernardo and so on but then when we work space we are crying out for someone on the end of it.
 
Dobsy said:
He'd also have seen a group of elite players who've been coached to the maximum of their talent. If he wants to fulfil his potential then Pep is the best coach out there.

The same was said of Aguero when Pep arrived, that he couldn't adapt to Guardiola's approach. Haaland is 20 years old.
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I didn’t say that he couldn’t learn from Pep, not sure where you got that notion from?

My point was that he’s physically huge for his age and will continue to fill out - he’s not the right shape, weight or height for how we play under our current system.

If we employ him we‘ll need to alter how we play to accommodate a player with his upsides and downsides, and if he saw us play last night he’d know that at a glance because he can’t do what we were doing last night. His talents are in a different direction.
His physicality means that, in performance terms, he’ll always be closer to a Lukaku than to a Bernardo or a Mahrez.
 
decmancity said:
Those crosses from KDB and Walker though he would have been on the end of though surely. I agree, leave the patterns and triangles to Foden, Bernardo and so on but then when we work space we are crying out for someone on the end of it.
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If you play a press and 1 player doesn’t press then you ain’t got a press.

If he’d have been in our team last night then we’d have had to sit deeper to try to use him on the counter and at set pieces.
We wouldn’t have dominated the play, camped out on the edge of their box etc. It would have been a different game under a different system and my response was to a poster who alluded to him seeing us play last night and thinking he’d fit in, whereas he wouldn’t because that’s not his bag.

Edit: I can better imagine him in a non-striker role. Playing midfield in a Yaya type role, staying generally deep and using his physicality to hold the ball / playing on the break / going up top for set pieces.
 
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