Etihad Atmosphere - 2021/22

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

That has always been the case though ever since ground went all seater. It was the same between kippax AA/BB lower and the blocks in the North Stand (R/P/etc) For whatever reason some of our most vocal fans will always migrate either sides of the away fans for the ‘bants’ and never have we had a stand of singers like at other grounds.

Prior to the family stand being created I cannot think or remember a reason the north stand end could not have become a singing end but everyone migrated next to the away fans.

We can still make the north stand a singing section. We are apparently making all level 1 north stand rail seating. Move the family stand whenever we expand and make that into a singing area. It’s our last chance to have a home end

 

[franksinatra]

We can still make the north stand a singing section. We are apparently making all level 1 north stand rail seating. Move the family stand whenever we expand and make that into a singing area. It’s our last chance to have a home end

That would be brilliant but I have my doubts whether everyone would move and instead choose to be near the away fans.

For example the South stand could have been a decent singing end if the vocal fans in the east stand had swelled the number of singers and visa versa fans in the south stand moving into the east stand. Its been like this since the Kippax terrace went. Loads of opportunites to create ‘one end’ but never been taken.

 

[117 M34]

having the away fans stuck inbetween our 2 main singing sections of the ground kills our atmosphere and potential for the exact reason mentioned above .. both sing different songs at the same time

surely it makes sense to put away fans elsewhere and let them seats be available to fans who want to sing and get involved

We could then potentially have from the corner of 109 all the way across to the other corner of the south stand as a big singing section . Would certainly improve the atmosphere

does anybody know why this hasn’t been done ? Seems glaringly obvious

Ever thought that the reason the 2 areas are the best for atmosphere simply because they are next to the away fans?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Ever thought that the reason the 2 areas are the best for atmosphere simply because they are next to the away fans?

Of course they are. But being 2 small groups they don't get as much proper atmosphere going as one big group would, like at every other ground in england.

 

[eastmanc]

Any pics of the display as I couldn’t get to the match and BT obviously didn’t/wouldn’t show it.

 

[117 M34]

Of course they are. But being 2 small groups they don't get as much proper atmosphere going as one big group would, like at every other ground in england.

Let's say you swapped over the away fans with the Kippax singing corner. The current South stand singing area would then be a fair distance from the away fans and the atmosphere in that section would get worse

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Any pics of the display as I couldn’t get to the match and BT obviously didn’t/wouldn’t show it.

 

[skyblue92]

Let's say you swapped over the away fans with the Kippax singing corner. The current South stand singing area would then be a fair distance from the away fans and the atmosphere in that section would get worse

I disagree and think that this would be a good idea as the kippax corner are vocal as well so that would be a solution for the kippax and south stand to merge together .. and would still have the away fans next to us .

I think this would be a good and probably the easiest solution

 

[Elliot houghton]

What everyone opinion on The light shows before games brilliant to get the atmosphere going but would prefer it just to be Lights out Blue moon like we did in the past rather than an all out light show

 

[blue b4 the moon]

What everyone opinion on These light shows before games brilliant to get the atmosphere going but would prefer it just to be Lights out Blue moon like we did on the past rather than an all out light show

Don't think we can put the lights out for 'safety reasons' anymore.

First CL game I've been to since the dips semi thought the light show was really good.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Ever thought that the reason the 2 areas are the best for atmosphere simply because they are next to the away fans?

why do you need away fans to sing or support the team?

If we swapped the kippax corner and away fans we’d have a large home end and songs would carry throughout the ground and wouldn’t be split between the two sections. Why would you not want that?

one large home end or two small sections split by away fans..

 

[Pince]

Any pics of the display as I couldn’t get to the match and BT obviously didn’t/wouldn’t show it.

Cropped something shocking, so a bit blurry.

 

[Georgian Maestro]

I bang on about this regularly. It's a bigger problem than people think. Human psychology is such that nobody wants to lok a dick and be the only one singing in their block or stand. If a song is loud enough, there are loads who will join in to the songs which don't involve clapping. But because there are about 1000 singers in each singing section, it doesn't get loud enough to spread unless both are singing at once and it spreads both ways around the ground at once before the song is over.

I got laughed at on here once but some sort of acoustic/sound reflective solution which allows songs to be heard in both singing sections when one starts would have a bigger effect than people think.

I think the types of songs are also the problem. The whole ground is not going to join into songs about empty seats or random songs about former players. The one time that everyone joined in was when the singing section sang Blue Moon in response to YNWA.
1894 need a rethink and tailor the songs to home and away matches. I think Psychedelic Casual made the point a few weeks ago that the singing sections at home act as if they are in an away section when really their job is to get the whole ground to join in. They need to sing more classics that will travel around the stadium.

 

[ninjamonkey]

What everyone opinion on The light shows before games brilliant to get the atmosphere going but would prefer it just to be Lights out Blue moon like we did in the past rather than an all out light show

The whole light show and songs pre match was excellent. What you have to remember is, there's plenty of kids (and tourists to a lesser extent) in the crowd who aren't overly interested in the football yet. The lightshow will be something they remember and talk about going home over pretty much anything else. City go above and beyond to help make the atmosphere.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I think the types of songs are also the problem. The whole ground is not going to join into songs about empty seats or random songs about former players. The one time that everyone joined in was when the singing section sang Blue Moon in response to YNWA.
1894 need a rethink and tailor the songs to home and away matches. I think Psychedelic Casual made the point a few weeks ago that the singing sections at home act as if they are in an away section when really their job is to get the whole ground to join in. They need to sing more classics that will travel around the stadium.

Yes, that pisses me off to be honest. The clapalongs. @Psychedelic Casual is dead right about it.

We'd just gone 2.1 up and the South Stand go into that irritating "empty seats" song for about 5 minutes which will never ever catch on at a home game and ensured that the other singing section couldn't be heard and the rest of the ground just sat there.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The whole light show and songs pre match was excellent. What you have to remember is, there's plenty of kids (and tourists to a lesser extent) in the crowd who aren't overly interested in the football yet. The lightshow will be something they remember and talk about going home over pretty much anything else. City go above and beyond to help make the atmosphere.

What the club don't get is what kids remember is not even the light show or flags or whatever. It's not so much even the football, although that is part of it.

Kids get excited by noise, singing and aggression. They want to be part of that. I think we would have bigger crowds and a bigger fanbase if the club addressed this problem instead of seeming to do everything in their power to make it as bad as possible.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I think the types of songs are also the problem. The whole ground is not going to join into songs about empty seats or random songs about former players. The one time that everyone joined in was when the singing section sang Blue Moon in response to YNWA.
1894 need a rethink and tailor the songs to home and away matches. I think Psychedelic Casual made the point a few weeks ago that the singing sections at home act as if they are in an away section when really their job is to get the whole ground to join in. They need to sing more classics that will travel around the stadium.

100% agree.
The crowd joined in when the classics were sung, unfortunately the south stand never seem to sing them.

didn’t hear hey Jude, we love you city, we’re not really here once from the south stand last night

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

I'm no expert on acoustics in public spaces but I seriously suspect that there's a problem around that at the Etihad. I'm not sure that people at the far end of the CB stand or the East Stand hear whatever the South Stand's singing, even when it's absolutely loud and clear within the SS itself. And vice versa. More than types of songs, I think that's one of the main reasons it's very difficult to get the whole stadium singing a classic song. You pick up snatches of what's being sung elsewhere, and by the time your stand has picked it up, it's dying away where it originated. I've noticed it myself when I've sat in other stands.
And another thing. I know I bang on about this, but the deafening public address system (and the not-very-fascinating things that are being said on it) simply bludgeons people into passiveness. I'm sure about this.

 

[ninjamonkey]

What the club don't get is what kids remember is not even the light show or flags or whatever. It's not so much even the football, although that is part of it.

Kids get excited by noise, singing and aggression. They want to be part of that. I think we would have bigger crowds and a bigger fanbase if the club addressed this problem instead of seeming to do everything in their power to make it as bad as possible.

What are they doing to make it as bad as possible? They allowed and assisted 1894 in a display, they choregraphed a light show with music before the match, some people may not be a fan of it but it creates a reaction immediately after it, some may say they want that time to sing whatever they want, well city have done that before plenty of times and the crowd have done fuck all and we've kicked off in silence, there's also 90 entire minutes afterwards to sing whatever they want a few minutes beforehand doesn't impact anybody negatively in that regard. There's a lot of blaming the club for atmosphere issues and in the past there's been some problems but all I see from city is them doing everything they can to help. The fans simply aren't interested and look to blame anybody but themselves. There's only one reason why the atmosphere isn't what it should be, the fans.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

I think the types of songs are also the problem. The whole ground is not going to join into songs about empty seats or random songs about former players. The one time that everyone joined in was when the singing section sang Blue Moon in response to YNWA.
1894 need a rethink and tailor the songs to home and away matches. I think Psychedelic Casual made the point a few weeks ago that the singing sections at home act as if they are in an away section when really their job is to get the whole ground to join in. They need to sing more classics that will travel around the stadium.

It's not a "job", though, and people aren't singing in order to entice the opposite end of the ground to sing. They've had a few beers and they start a song and they hope people around them join in. There's plenty of renditions of Blue Moon, We Love You City, and Invisible Man each game. It is what it is.