@twosips , I would say the issues are:
1. Main Singing Section trapped between the quietest stand in the stadium (Colin Bell) and the away fans, and below a corporate area. Our Singing Section is just like an away section in a home stadium instead of a collective place that songs naturally spread from, songs actually struggle to spread from there. There probably isn’t a worse place our singing section could possibly be in the stadium.
2. Main Singing Section in SSL1 far too small. If away fans fill their end, they louder than the singing section is.
3. Having two vocal areas situated where we do, like we do, creates a situation where two different songs are often sung at the same time and the rest of the ground has no idea which one to join in with. If the away fans are also singing there can be three different songs being sung at the same time, it just sounds like a random incoherent mash of noise - “oh we never win at home, standing alone, when the Saints go marching in, and all the world”.
4. The away fans; they’re in the way! I think we need to move our singing sections right across the other side of the stadium as far away from the away fans as we can get.
5. The club selling tickets on those tour/tout sites they use in the singing sections, diluting the amount of singers there. Absolutely no tourists should be in the singing areas, none, none at all! United have got strict rules about this at Old Trafford now, people aren’t even allowed to get their phones out, if they do their seat numbers are sent to the singing section lead fans who then have a contact at the club who can move them out of that area. I’m not saying we should do this at City, but there should not be any tourists in the vocal areas.
6. Fans not being in their seats at kick off. Never known a singing section anywhere that isn’t full at kick off belting out songs. But ours is regularly not full at kick off. Something needs to be done to get fans into their seats (not just in the singing sections, but stadium-wide, really) earlier.
7. Another point about our singing section not being full and belting out songs before kick off… wouldn’t actually matter if it was full 30 minutes before kick off because at the moment because the speaker system belts out noise so loudly that nobody can even hear what the person next to them is saying even if they’re shouting at you, never mind hear what a small singing section could be singing. Turn the bloody music down! Better still, turn the bloody speakers off full stop from 15 mins before kick off, we do not need them!
8. One that probably won’t be a popular answer… we have too many season ticket holders. We have too many people sat in the same spot year-after-year with loads of other people around them all comfortable with each other sitting in silence; and too many season ticket holders who don’t mind not turning up to games and leaving their seat empty. Our stadium needs a proper fucking shake-up. Reduce the amount of season ticket holders and disperse fans around the ground more.
9. The club are too bothered about everything but atmosphere. It’s money, money, money, money, freebies to hangers on, families, then right at the bottom of the pecking order - atmosphere. It’s great that they’ve out in rail seats but where they’ve put them in adds to the problems I’ve mentioned in points 1-3. Wrong place, too small, two sections…
10. Price rises are often too sharp and are the breaking point in losing fans. 12% rises we’ve had some years in a time when inflation has been no higher than 1.5%. I know numerous people who have given up their season ticket over the years when we’ve seen the biggest price hikes.
11. There aren’t enough cheap tickets. I’ll use an example of Bayern München - they have 12,000 cheap season tickets (about £250 a pop). How many do we have at City? I bet we don’t have 1,200. Individual match day tickets for Prem games are too high as well (if I wanted to buy my Sister and two of her kids tickets in my block for the Burnley Prem game it’d set me back £117 and her kids are 9 and 6).
…I could probably think of a few more, but they’re the main ones I reckon.