The Trafford Centre opened in 1998, a decade before Mansour bought City. It was you who started this thread with all the shite about Vegas and now you're acting as though you knew nothing would happen all along.
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Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread
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The Trafford Centre opened in 1998, a decade before Mansour bought City. It was you who started this thread with all the shite about Vegas and now you're acting as though you knew nothing would happen all along.
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What plans are these - Holt Town? Isn't North West of the CFA the Stadium?
Geographicaly dyslectic ......you'll still be amazed mate.
pride in battle
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What's NYU?All very interesting but a huge damp squib IMHO. It seems they never did manage to get a decent leisure partner and have scratched around for alternatives.
I suppose it was inevitable that once the Trafford Centre had grabbed a huge part of the NW leisure market the justification for something else wasnt there.
One quick reminder that Abu Dhabi has very strong links to NYU
Centurions
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Presumably New York University since they're talking about a sports based learning centre of some kind although I'd have thought MMU would have first dibs as the owners already have ties with them too.What's NYU?
These things take time.
Yes, it's a bit disappointing that we're still no nearer to seeing concrete and public plans for the Collar Site, Etihad Campus, and the wider area.(PDF vision are good and well)
However, I think we have to give MCC(and ADUG) some credit.
Rather than just building a Blackpool style theme park on the Collar site, etc, they are trying to create a real lasting sporting and education related legacy to tie in with what's already been built in the area. With so many stake holders, land owners, businesses, educational institutions, sporting bodies, etc involved, this will take a long time before a proposal for the whole area is negotiated, funded, completed, and ultimately made public. Not to mention trying lure the universities to the east of the city.(in essence asking them to split up a piece of their campus, when they are currently investing £1bil in it, centralising it on Oxford Road, and closing the North Campus in town and selling it off)
It does state in the PDF document that the Collar Site down to the gas works will be leisure and retail. So nothing has changed there. It's the other parts of the wider proposal that maybe holding the overall proposal back, due to the complex nature of what's proposed and the talks and negotiations taking place. Until everything is in place, nobody involved will go public on it. We just have to keep on waiting. (that aside, no news on the NS expansion is a bit of a pisser)
Yes, it's a bit disappointing that we're still no nearer to seeing concrete and public plans for the Collar Site, Etihad Campus, and the wider area.(PDF vision are good and well)
However, I think we have to give MCC(and ADUG) some credit.
Rather than just building a Blackpool style theme park on the Collar site, etc, they are trying to create a real lasting sporting and education related legacy to tie in with what's already been built in the area. With so many stake holders, land owners, businesses, educational institutions, sporting bodies, etc involved, this will take a long time before a proposal for the whole area is negotiated, funded, completed, and ultimately made public. Not to mention trying lure the universities to the east of the city.(in essence asking them to split up a piece of their campus, when they are currently investing £1bil in it, centralising it on Oxford Road, and closing the North Campus in town and selling it off)
It does state in the PDF document that the Collar Site down to the gas works will be leisure and retail. So nothing has changed there. It's the other parts of the wider proposal that maybe holding the overall proposal back, due to the complex nature of what's proposed and the talks and negotiations taking place. Until everything is in place, nobody involved will go public on it. We just have to keep on waiting. (that aside, no news on the NS expansion is a bit of a pisser)
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Are either of the gas holders listed?
A decade ago I couldn't really get my head around plans for a Hotel, and retail around the ground, But we're getting closer to critical mass. Sometimes you see all these grandiose plans for hotels, theatres and shopping malls, but the whole thing has to hang together. Shops, restaurants, hotels, pubs etc would have gone bust inside of a year had they opened a decade or so ago, but the more employment and people that are concentrated in the area, the more feasible such plans become. I am sure that this part of the City is going to be one of the growth areas in Manchester (along with widening of the City centre) and the renewal of Oxford Rd as the universities reinvest all their student fees.These things take time.
Yes, it's a bit disappointing that we're still no nearer to seeing concrete and public plans for the Collar Site, Etihad Campus, and the wider area.(PDF vision are good and well)
However, I think we have to give MCC(and ADUG) some credit.
Rather than just building a Blackpool style theme park on the Collar site, etc, they are trying to create a real lasting sporting and education related legacy to tie in with what's already been built in the area. With so many stake holders, land owners, businesses, educational institutions, sporting bodies, etc involved, this will take a long time before a proposal for the whole area is negotiated, funded, completed, and ultimately made public. Not to mention trying lure the universities to the east of the city.(in essence asking them to split up a piece of their campus, when they are currently investing £1bil in it, centralising it on Oxford Road, and closing the North Campus in town and selling it off)
It does state in the PDF document that the Collar Site down to the gas works will be leisure and retail. So nothing has changed there. It's the other parts of the wider proposal that maybe holding the overall proposal back, due to the complex nature of what's proposed and the talks and negotiations taking place. Until everything is in place, nobody involved will go public on it. We just have to keep on waiting. (that aside, no news on the NS expansion is a bit of a pisser)
I've noticed that Manchester seems to be in the middle of another building boom. Cranes everywhere and every week I hear about plans for some new skyscraper.
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A decade ago I couldn't really get my head around plans for a Hotel, and retail around the ground, But we're getting closer to critical mass. Sometimes you see all these grandiose plans for hotels, theatres and shopping malls, but the whole thing has to hang together. Shops, restaurants, hotels, pubs etc would have gone bust inside of a year had they opened a decade or so ago, but the more employment and people that are concentrated in the area, the more feasible such plans become. I am sure that this part of the City is going to be one of the growth areas in Manchester (along with widening of the City centre) and the renewal of Oxford Rd as the universities reinvest all their student fees.
I've noticed that Manchester seems to be in the middle of another building boom. Cranes everywhere and every week I hear about plans for some new skyscraper.
Ajax's ground is a good example of business retail and leisure from what I can remember
Neville Kneville
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I actually much prefer the idea of a top quality sports university & general sports hub surrounded by facilities for business & hopefully plenty of leisure stuff (there is fucking NOWHERE close to the ground to go even just to wait for the trraffic to die down).
I've never been convinced by the idea of some fucking Disneyland Beswick idea. Expanding the city centre, which is frankly fucking shite & an embarrassment for a City of Manchester's standing, & creating a connection between there & Eastlands, is a fantastic concept imo IF, they get it right & actually make it somewhere human beings want to go, rather than just buildings.
I've never been convinced by the idea of some fucking Disneyland Beswick idea. Expanding the city centre, which is frankly fucking shite & an embarrassment for a City of Manchester's standing, & creating a connection between there & Eastlands, is a fantastic concept imo IF, they get it right & actually make it somewhere human beings want to go, rather than just buildings.
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I actually much prefer the idea of a top quality sports university & general sports hub surrounded by facilities for business & hopefully plenty of leisure stuff (there is fucking NOWHERE close to the ground to go even just to wait for the trraffic to die down).
I've never been convinced by the idea of some fucking Disneyland Beswick idea. Expanding the city centre, which is frankly fucking shite & an embarrassment for a City of Manchester's standing, & creating a connection between there & Eastlands, is a fantastic concept imo IF, they get it right & actually make it somewhere human beings want to go, rather than just buildings.
It's clear that ADUG are looking to expand the city centre so that the Etihad encompasses it and isn't out in the suburbs. I wouldn't say the city centre is shite but it's lacking attractions on the scale of Paris, London etc. We need a major tourist attraction.
As much as it's come on in recent years there's still lot's to do. The Northern Quarter could be fantastic. Strip the roads back to the old cobbles, pave the pavements in stone to give it that historic bohemian feel it craves. The council missed an opportunity to have the best restaurant quarter with the curry mile by not investing in it and should not make the same mistakes again.
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