Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[Man_City_Loyal]

Thats the theory, but home fans can still hear away fans without being next to them. Plus the interaction from across the ground rather than shouting at the next block may even be an improvement. I wouldn't know but are there grounds where away fans aren’t next to the home fans singers, if there are ,are their atmospheres worse than ours ?

good point

 

[Goaternipple2]

good point

Couldn't be worse

 

[JASR]

They won't put away fans in the south stand. If we want the north stand to be in the home end then moving the away fans around the corner to the East stand would be the only option.

From an armchair perspective, The away fans need to be in the corner of the west and south stand, because they’d not appear on tv. Except when a corner is taken, and the camera shot is into the corner.
It’s a small thing, but it’s always grated on me, watching the away crowd behind the goal (main camera angle) in the south stand. And because of segregation requirements, it clearly shows empty seats. United with their free pass of disregarding rules on sway supporters being on level 1, have the away supporters bottled up in the area I suggest. Can’t remember where the Newcastle away is, but again it’s not visible on tv.
Maybe it’s just my perception, but I’d prefer them to be out of sight, let alone out of earshot

 

[JGL07]

From an armchair perspective, The away fans need to be in the corner of the west and south stand, because they’d not appear on tv. Except when a corner is taken, and the camera shot is into the corner.
It’s a small thing, but it’s always grated on me, watching the away crowd behind the goal (main camera angle) in the south stand. And because of segregation requirements, it clearly shows empty seats. United with their free pass of disregarding rules on sway supporters being on level 1, have the away supporters bottled up in the area I suggest. Can’t remember where the Newcastle away is, but again it’s not visible on tv.
Maybe it’s just my perception, but I’d prefer them to be out of sight, let alone out of earshot

The last time I went to Newcastle my Geordie son-in-law got us tickets in the Gallowgate End. We couldn’t see the City supporters from our seats. We could hear them though!

City were 2-0 up in 10 minutes and won 3-1 thanks to a couple of goals from Tevez, if I recall correctly.

 

[HelloCity]

Thats the theory, but home fans can still hear away fans without being next to them. Plus the interaction from across the ground rather than shouting at the next block may even be an improvement. I wouldn't know but are there grounds where away fans aren’t next to the home fans singers, if there are ,are their atmospheres worse than ours ?

Anfield
Old Trafford
Tottenham Hotspur Stadium
Selhurst Park
Stamford Bridge
Goodison Park
Bramall Lane

You get the picture.

 

[nmc]

From an armchair perspective, The away fans need to be in the corner of the west and south stand, because they’d not appear on tv. Except when a corner is taken, and the camera shot is into the corner.
It’s a small thing, but it’s always grated on me, watching the away crowd behind the goal (main camera angle) in the south stand. And because of segregation requirements, it clearly shows empty seats. United with their free pass of disregarding rules on sway supporters being on level 1, have the away supporters bottled up in the area I suggest. Can’t remember where the Newcastle away is, but again it’s not visible on tv.
Maybe it’s just my perception, but I’d prefer them to be out of sight, let alone out of earshot

At Newcastle its very high up - top tier at the Leazes end of the ground.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Pretty sure Gary Cook commented a few years ago that our season tickets holders average age was significantly the highest in the premier league and we needed to get more kids supporting the club; fucking off the family stand will not help. I think it’s nice to see how many kids in Manchester wear City rather than scum shirts, takes me back to when I was a kid

having a family end where most of the people in it, aren’t kids doesn’t make a difference to that.what made a difference is when kids tickets all around the ground were cheap - meaning the family was irrelevant

 

[Marvin]

I contacted PB about the NS expansion to see if we could get a clarification on the timetable, and criteria for the go ahead. PB's view is that it may need to be financially viable.

If that is the criteria, then how would that be assessed?

Does it mean that the revenue from the stand has to cover the borrowing costs or the potential investment return on £60m (if we assume the construction cost to be £60m because those are Liverpool's cost for their Anfield Rd expansion).

If we add 7500 seats and we fill it with £400 season tickets and allow for £100 Cup ticket revenue per seat then that's £3.75m pa or a return on capital of 6.25%. The capital expenditure would presumably be reflected in an increase in the valuation of the club's stadium in the Fixed assets on the balance sheet.

There are also all kind of intangible financial benefits as well including sponsorship, results, improved player recruitment.

Is this is how it would be assessed then what are we waiting for? 6% covers borrowing costs or current investment returns. I guarantee (not literally!) that City could add 7.500 extra seats if we filled them with £400 season tickets.

Have they done this right? I am guessing on the approach that would be taken.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Rail seating should be put in north stand level 1 and finally give us a proper home end. Move the family stand to tier two.

then we’d have a home end and still have the singing section in the south stand

 

[HelloCity]

Rail seating should be put in north stand level 1 and finally give us a proper home end. Move the family stand to tier two.

then we’d have a home end and still have the singing section in the south stand

The Family Stand is already in tier 2.