Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[Bonnie Blues Cat.]

Putting it out there to see who'd be a pendant and bite first.

I like your style !!

 

[Francis Crawford]

Coaches drop em off in the quarantine zone ,others stay on the tram to Asda / ANR & straight in where BoB was.

Little /No interaction with City fans at the NS & JMW.

PermaTent accommodation & food carts.

Does anyone lose by this & is there an overall benefit ??

Yes City when it bombs !

Town is 20-25mins walk away,any away fan coming to mcr would rather go in the city centre than some sterile overpriced tent outside the stadium ,some may try it ,but not enough to make it worthwhile,if it was ,they would have done it by now ,gmp probably wouldn’t allow it ethier ,they will want the away fans off their transport and in the ground asap ,not within spitting distance of the home fans fuelled on ale !

 

[waspish]

Yes City when it bombs !

Town is 20-25mins walk away,any away fan coming to mcr would rather go in the city centre than some sterile overpriced tent outside the stadium ,some may try it ,but not enough to make it worthwhile,if it was ,they would have done it by now ,gmp probably wouldn’t allow it ethier ,they will want the away fans off their transport and in the ground asap ,not within spitting distance of the home fans fuelled on ale !

Well say for every 4 pints you get one free

 

[Bonnie Blues Cat.]

Yes City when it bombs !

Town is 20-25mins walk away,any away fan coming to mcr would rather go in the city centre than some sterile overpriced tent outside the stadium ,some may try it ,but not enough to make it worthwhile,if it was ,they would have done it by now ,gmp probably wouldn’t allow it ethier ,they will want the away fans off their transport and in the ground asap ,not within spitting distance of the home fans fuelled on ale !

Very contradictory if you don't mind me saying.

Away fans drinking in town is more of a potential flash point than in a secure zone with direct access to the turnstiles.

Additionally, hundreds of away fans come by coach directly into the secure zone and could/should be a captive market if the offering is right.

GMP don't know what's good bad or indifferent imo, but I understand that they prefer away fans not to be roaming around the town centre and NQ, but to be at the stadium.

It could be trialled at CL games
when a lot of away fans are on packages including coach travel to the ground and might minimise the pre match disruption caused by the marches from exchange square in rush hour !!

 

[Francis Crawford]

Very contradictory if you don't mind me saying.

Away fans drinking in town is more of a potential flash point than in a secure zone with direct access to the turnstiles.

Additionally, hundreds of away fans come by coach directly into the secure zone and could/should be a captive market if the offering is right.

GMP don't know what's good bad or indifferent imo, but I understand that they prefer away fans not to be roaming around the town centre and NQ, but to be at the stadium.

It could be trialled at CL games
when a lot of away fans are on packages including coach travel to the ground and might minimise the pre match disruption caused by the marches from exchange square in rush hour !!

I refer to my first original point ! If it was cost effective it would have been fine by now , never going to happen for reason already explained by myself and others as for champions league games ? If it was the other way around I would be delighted to go to the stadium 4 hours b4 kick off ,stand in a tent and be told when and where I could fart ?

 

[Francis Crawford]

The people who come by coach are already a captive market as they get led to turnstiles immediately and put into the ground where there is already facilities and where they can get up to no good

U are flogging a dead horse with this Eutopian ,crack pot idea ?

Never going to happen ,and why ?

Not enough money in it

 

[Del_Bosque]

There should be more spots along the walking routes in and out of town to stop for a drink/bite to eat/get out of the bad weather. On the 2 main routes which are down Great Ancoats St and Ashton New Rd ground there’s nothing between Track Brewery and The South Stand and the other which is from Islington Marina along the canal there’s nothing between Flawd Wine and the Co-op. Much more likely to get people walking if you can stop off on the way.

Not sure there’s any value in the club providing a designated away space to be honest.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

The nest at Nottingham has got nothing to do with forest , it’s connected to notts county who have just tryied to get in on the act that the club across the river are in the premiership and it gives them another 20-25 days a year to make a bit of money out of an establishment that would be other wise empty as forest fans probably wouldn’t use it as they know it’s a county pub !

Well done to Notts County, the point I was trying to make is that there needs to away fan zone and pub, this would make money for the club

If the collar site was developed, hopefully, this is something that could be done, as it would make money.



Here is one of the Bournemouth fans talking about the lack of an away pub next to the ground

 

[.db.]

Well done to Notts County, the point I was trying to make is that there needs to away fan zone and pub, this would make money for the club

If the collar site was developed, hopefully, this is something that could be done, as it would make money.

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Here is one of the Bournemouth fans talking about the lack of an away pub next to the ground

There’s a lack of home pubs around the Etihad, never mind away pubs.

When we moved to the CoMS in 2003, all of these pubs were open around the ground:

The Gibraltar (later called The Kippax)
Britannia Inn (later, Maine Road)
The Queen Victoria (later, Eastlands Bar)
The Church Inn (later, Blue Moon)
The Crossroads (later, The Manchester)
The Bradford (also Guvnors/Champagne Charlie’s)
Little Bradford (now called The Bradford since the big Bradford shut down)
Cricketers (later, The Stadium)
Bank of England
The River
Seven Stars
The Mitchell Arms
The King’s Head
The Spanking Roger
The Legh Arms
The Birch
The Derby Arms
The Bridge Inn
The Grey Mare
Sir Humphrey Chetham
The Clock Face
The Corner Shop
The Townley
Mary D’s
The Grove

It used to be a good pub crawl.
Now we just have the bottom four and The Bradford. They’re all too rammed because even more drinkers are squeezing into five pubs.

For people who follow proper football fan culture, pubs are a massive part of that. Not having a good pub culture around the stadium diminishes the football fan culture of the club and is one of the reasons that accumulates with other reasons for why people have fallen away from our matchgoing support.

 

[lee one pen]

Very contradictory if you don't mind me saying.

Away fans drinking in town is more of a potential flash point than in a secure zone with direct access to the turnstiles.

Additionally, hundreds of away fans come by coach directly into the secure zone and could/should be a captive market if the offering is right.

GMP don't know what's good bad or indifferent imo, but I understand that they prefer away fans not to be roaming around the town centre and NQ, but to be at the stadium.

It could be trialled at CL games
when a lot of away fans are on packages including coach travel to the ground and might minimise the pre match disruption caused by the marches from exchange square in rush hour !!

You are miles off it mate. We are not thinking about making more money for the club. We want to know what the club are going to do for us local fans. If we carry on as we are, then we will see the consequences in 10yrs time. Trust me if you don’t invest in the natives you are fucked.

 

[bladdered]

To me, the site is crying out for a huge Wetherspoons. It would make a fortune on match and concert days.

And once the hotel gets going, I'm sure it would do well along with the local demand.

Plus it would help build up the pre match atmosphere along with Mary D's and whatever pubs we have left.

As others have mentioned, we had pubs in abundance at Maine Road but the Etihad is like a desert in comparison.

 

[DiscoSteve]

There’s a lack of home pubs around the Etihad, never mind away pubs.

When we moved to the CoMS in 2003, all of these pubs were open around the ground:

The Gibraltar (later called The Kippax)
Britannia Inn (later, Maine Road)
The Queen Victoria (later, Eastlands Bar)
The Church Inn (later, Blue Moon)
The Crossroads (later, The Manchester)
The Bradford (also Guvnors/Champagne Charlie’s)
Little Bradford (now called The Bradford since the big Bradford shut down)
Cricketers (later, The Stadium)
Bank of England
The River
Seven Stars
The Mitchell Arms
The King’s Head
The Spanking Roger
The Legh Arms
The Birch
The Derby Arms
The Bridge Inn
The Grey Mare
Sir Humphrey Chetham
The Corner Shop
The Townley
Mary D’s
The Grove

It used to be a good pub crawl.
Now we just have the bottom four and The Bradford. They’re all too rammed because even more drinkers are squeezing into five pubs.

For people who follow proper football fan culture, pubs are a massive part of that. Not having a good pub culture around the stadium diminishes the football fan culture of the club and is one of the reasons that accumulates with other reasons for why people have fallen away from our matchgoing support.

You missed the (now demolished) Clock Face - we regularly used to pile in there with Bredbury Blues before walking to the ground

 

[Francis Crawford]

Well done to Notts County, the point I was trying to make is that there needs to away fan zone and pub, this would make money for the club

If the collar site was developed, hopefully, this is something that could be done, as it would make money.

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Here is one of the Bournemouth fans talking about the lack of an away pub next to the ground

So a taxi load of Bournemouth ultras bemoan the fact that there is a lack of away pubs near the ground !

Jesus wept !

 

[Silva61]

Very contradictory if you don't mind me saying.

Away fans drinking in town is more of a potential flash point than in a secure zone with direct access to the turnstiles.

Additionally, hundreds of away fans come by coach directly into the secure zone and could/should be a captive market if the offering is right.

GMP don't know what's good bad or indifferent imo, but I understand that they prefer away fans not to be roaming around the town centre and NQ, but to be at the stadium.

It could be trialled at CL games
when a lot of away fans are on packages including coach travel to the ground and might minimise the pre match disruption caused by the marches from exchange square in rush hour !!

Not sure if you attend any aways,
I like to get into town, route out some good ale houses, talk to the locals and on the odd occasion stay over. Usually travelling by train so arriving in the centre of town.
Can be costly so not for everyone.
Arriving by coach, being ushered into some tent in a sterile zone to drink over priced piss then straight in the ground for more of the same, back on the coach then straight home is not my idea of an away day.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Not sure if you attend any aways,
I like to get into town, route out some good ale houses, talk to the locals and on the odd occasion stay over. Usually travelling by train so arriving in the centre of town.
Can be costly so not for everyone.
Arriving by coach, being ushered into some tent in a sterile zone to drink over priced piss then straight in the ground for more of the same, back on the coach then straight home is not my idea of an away day.

Most home and away fans drink in town. Manchester is a fantastic place for pubs. Only a few arrive by coach in any event.

 

[.db.]

For European games, away fans go to Shambles Sq before games against City or United.

 

[Oyster28catcher]

Well done to Notts County, the point I was trying to make is that there needs to away fan zone and pub, this would make money for the club

If the collar site was developed, hopefully, this is something that could be done, as it would make money.

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Right hand X is taken by a memorial.

https://broadbent.studio/bradfordpitproject

The bradford pit project​

NAME : Bradford Pit Memorial DATE : 2020 CLIENT : Lauren Murphy (BPP Lead) Sub Client: MCC & MCFC LOCATION : Sport City, Etihad Campus, Manchester PARTNERS : CB Arts, Manchester School of Art, Scribble-stone, Printed Film Co, Adrian Wright

http://www.art.mmu.ac.uk/events/2020/radical-response/

https://www.facebook.com/bradfordpitmemorial

https://bradfordpit.com/

 

[warpig]

Right hand X is taken by a memorial.

https://broadbent.studio/bradfordpitproject

The bradford pit project​

NAME : Bradford Pit Memorial DATE : 2020 CLIENT : Lauren Murphy (BPP Lead) Sub Client: MCC & MCFC LOCATION : Sport City, Etihad Campus, Manchester PARTNERS : CB Arts, Manchester School of Art, Scribble-stone, Printed Film Co, Adrian Wright

http://www.art.mmu.ac.uk/events/2020/radical-response/

https://www.facebook.com/bradfordpitmemorial

https://bradfordpit.com/

Id like to see more of these around the ground in more prominent locations.
Also club branded flags on lamp posts (controversial at the minute!) on the main arterial roads leading up to the stadium.

 

[Oyster28catcher]

Id like to see more of these around the ground in more prominent locations.
Also club branded flags on lamp posts (controversial at the minute!) on the main arterial roads leading up to the stadium.

More blue would be magnificent. Down by Everton women's and men's ground there are hundreds of banners on lamp posts. I'm certain it is the same by their training ground

 

[.db.]

You missed the (now demolished) Clock Face - we regularly used to pile in there with Bredbury Blues before walking to the ground

I’ve added the Clock Face to the list in my post. There are probably others I’ve missed n’all.

But it does show how much part of football fan culture (football ground pubs) has changed at City. Remember all those pubs in the first five years or so after the move to the CoMS, and across a season me and my group would visit most of them and you’d see different lads in the different pubs and get to know faces, you’d see them at away games and chat+sing with them in the towns and pubs or the stands at away games.

Remember the number of pubs around Maine Road. Similar pub culture there.

You see with these pubs disappearing, a correlation of many of our matchgoing fans also falling away from attending games (along with other reasons like ticket price rises). The pubs in Town are good, and there are a lot of them with a good choice around Town; but city centre pubs aren’t the same as pubs near the ground.