Europa League Knockout Round Draw

[JoeMercer'sWay]

With the Champions League being complete, here are the 4 teams dropping down who will be seeded in the round of 32:

Spartak Moskva, Braga, Ajax and FC Twente.

Here are the 4 unseeded teams:

Rubin Kazan, Rangers, FC Basel and Benfica.

Here are the qualified group winners in the Europa League:

Bayer Leverkusen, Sporting CP, CSKA Moskva, Zenit, VFB Stuttgart, Liverpool and Porto.

Here are the qualified runners up in the Europa League:

Sparta Praha, Young Boys and Besiktas.

So including current standings these would be the seedings, however some groups are very tight so it's obviously going to change.

Seeds: Spartak Moskva, Braga, Ajax, FC Twente, Bayer Leverkusen, Sporting CP, CSKA Moskva, Zenit, Stuttgart, Liverpool, Porto, Manchester City, Villarreal, Dynamo Kyiv, PSV Eindhoven, Paris Saint-Germain.

Non-Seeds: Rubin Kazan, Rangers, FC Basel, Benfica, Sparta Praha, Young Boys, Besiktas, Lech Poznan, Aris Salonika, AA Gent, PAOK Salonika, BATE Borisov, AEK Athens, Metalist Kharkiv, Sevilla, Steaua.

The italics are unconfirmed spots, here's a quick breakdown.

Group A-between City and Poznan obv.
Group B-between Aris and Atletico for 2nd.
Group C-between Gent, Lille and Levski Sofia for 2nd.
Group D-Between Villarreal, PAOK and Dinamo Zagreb for both spots.
Group E-Between Dynamo Kyiv and BATE Borisov for both spots.
Group G-Between AEK Athens and RSC Anderlecht for 2nd.
Group I-Between PSV and Metalist Kharkiv for both spots.
Group J-Between Paris SG, Sevilla and Borussia Dortmund for both spots.
Group K-Between Steaua, Napoli and FC Utrecht for 2nd.

So it gives us an idea even if it's not all clear yet.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Well we're still the best team in the competition after the Champions League drop outs, so bring it on!

 

[1fingerwillie]

Assuming Lech beats Salzburg and we tie Juventus....what is the order to break the tie at the top (both Lech and City would have 11 points)?

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Assuming Lech beats Salzburg and we tie Juventus....what is the order to break the tie at the top (both Lech and City would have 11 points)?

as we have identical head to head's(3-1 each), it would come down to goal difference in the group, we have +5, they have +2, so they would need to win 3-0 v Salzburg if we draw.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Hope we get Basel in the knockouts :-)

 

[1fingerwillie]

Assuming Lech beats Salzburg and we tie Juventus....what is the order to break the tie at the top (both Lech and City would have 11 points)?

as we have identical head to head's(3-1 each), it would come down to goal difference in the group, we have +5, they have +2, so they would need to win 3-0 v Salzburg if we draw.

Thanks. So if they win by 3 and we draw we are even on goal difference and they win the group because they will have more total goals scored in the group?

 

[rickmcfc]

Hope we get Basel in the knockouts :-)

So do I, somewhere in the alps so I can go skiing for a few days afterwards!!!

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

as we have identical head to head's(3-1 each), it would come down to goal difference in the group, we have +5, they have +2, so they would need to win 3-0 v Salzburg if we draw.

Thanks. So if they win by 3 and we draw we are even on goal difference and they win the group because they will have more total goals scored in the group?

Here's the official line:

Manchester City and Lech Poznań have qualified for the knockout stage.

Manchester City will win the group

-if they defeat Juventus, OR
-if they draw against Juventus AND Lech Poznań do not defeat Salzburg by at least 3 goals, OR
-if they draw against Juventus with a score of 3–3 or higher AND Lech Poznań defeat Salzburg by 3 goals AND Lech Poznań do not score more goals in their victory against Salzburg than Manchester City score against Juventus, OR
-if Lech Poznań do not defeat Salzburg.

Lech Poznań will win the group

-if they defeat Salzburg AND Manchester City lose to Juventus, OR
-if they defeat Salzburg by 3 goals AND Manchester City draw against Juventus with a score of 2–2 or lower, OR
-if they defeat Salzburg by 3 goals AND Manchester City draw against Juventus with a score of 3–3 or higher AND they score more goals against Salzburg than Manchester City score against Juventus, OR
-if they defeat Salzburg by 4 goals or more AND Manchester City do not defeat Juventus.

Juventus and Salzburg have been eliminated.

 

[1fingerwillie]

Thanks. So if they win by 3 and we draw we are even on goal difference and they win the group because they will have more total goals scored in the group?

Here's the official line:

Manchester City and Lech Poznań have qualified for the knockout stage.

Manchester City will win the group

-if they defeat Juventus, OR
-if they draw against Juventus AND Lech Poznań do not defeat Salzburg by at least 3 goals, OR
-if they draw against Juventus with a score of 3–3 or higher AND Lech Poznań defeat Salzburg by 3 goals AND Lech Poznań do not score more goals in their victory against Salzburg than Manchester City score against Juventus, OR
-if Lech Poznań do not defeat Salzburg.

Lech Poznań will win the group

-if they defeat Salzburg AND Manchester City lose to Juventus, OR
-if they defeat Salzburg by 3 goals AND Manchester City draw against Juventus with a score of 2–2 or lower, OR
-if they defeat Salzburg by 3 goals AND Manchester City draw against Juventus with a score of 3–3 or higher AND they score more goals against Salzburg than Manchester City score against Juventus, OR
-if they defeat Salzburg by 4 goals or more AND Manchester City do not defeat Juventus.

Juventus and Salzburg have been eliminated.

Thanks. Now my head hurts but I think i have it.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Here's the official line:

Manchester City and Lech Poznań have qualified for the knockout stage.

Manchester City will win the group

-if they defeat Juventus, OR
-if they draw against Juventus AND Lech Poznań do not defeat Salzburg by at least 3 goals, OR
-if they draw against Juventus with a score of 3–3 or higher AND Lech Poznań defeat Salzburg by 3 goals AND Lech Poznań do not score more goals in their victory against Salzburg than Manchester City score against Juventus, OR
-if Lech Poznań do not defeat Salzburg.

Lech Poznań will win the group

-if they defeat Salzburg AND Manchester City lose to Juventus, OR
-if they defeat Salzburg by 3 goals AND Manchester City draw against Juventus with a score of 2–2 or lower, OR
-if they defeat Salzburg by 3 goals AND Manchester City draw against Juventus with a score of 3–3 or higher AND they score more goals against Salzburg than Manchester City score against Juventus, OR
-if they defeat Salzburg by 4 goals or more AND Manchester City do not defeat Juventus.

Juventus and Salzburg have been eliminated.

Thanks. Now my head hurts but I think i have it.

Basically if we draw 3-3 and they win 3-0, we'll be equal on GD, goals scored, head to head, so it will come down to coefficient, which we win on :).

In reality they have to win 3-0 in Salzburg unless we bottle it in Turin.

We need to finish top though as the seeded teams look hard.