TheBlueDune
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Ja, for sure ve haff sent you ein invitation. It must haff been lost in das post.
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Europe's "Major" teams want automatic Champions League qualification
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Oystercatcher28
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I hate the whole concept of teams winning their national league, playing qualifiers and still not earning a seat at the top dinner table. The same goes for national cup winners. What right do UEFA have or any other body to block progressive and ambitious teams? They'd shut the door on the beautiful game. It wasn't too long ago that UEFA Fair Play places helped us, Fulham etc along alternative roads to earn a place. If you ahve the same old, same old fighting for a cup, without possible underdog giant killings, yes you'll play out more likliehoods of competitve games but on the other hand, it'll sour their lifting of trophies. Have a pre-season tournament, UEFA Summer Cup or something... don't end the right of other clubs to enter.
I know G14 doesn't officially exist anymore as they had to disband as part of a deal, but it's painfully naive to think these clubs still don't look after each other.There is no such thing as the G14. It was replaced by the European Club Association in 2008.
BluessinceHydeRoad
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UEFA would have enormous problems if it were to find such an idea acceptable. It claimed that its recent financial regulations, allegedly to establish a "level playing field", were immediately attacked as being anti-competitive, and at the last count there were 9 different actions against them going through the courts. This masques the fact that, if FFPR were intended to halt City's progress, UEFA hasn't managed to enact any form of words which can do that without making life difficult for all "elite" clubs. The answer certainly doesn't lie in this scheme. The CL is, from the legal point of view, no more than a market, to which this idea would almost allow privileged access to some clubs. Some other clubs would be allowed to compete on a different basis (being good at football) while others would not be allowed into the market at all. This would interest the commercial lawyers again. As a sporting competition it would not be fair since some clubs would be excluded because they were neither "big" enough nor good enough, other clubs would be invited only if the were good enough while a third group would be in every year only because they were "big" enough, or had been successful at some time in the past. Defining "bigness" would be a fascinating business - 8 teams have won the CL since 2000, which would be a sizeable increas in the size of the competition. The complication would be that teams like Arsenal and City would have to compete over 38 games in the PL whereas United, Liverpool and Chelsea could rest players to prepare for CL games. The reaction of the PL and the FA to this debasing of the PL and to its implications for the TV deal would be interesting. Juventus would not be given automatic entry despite being by far the best Italian team in recent years, but AC and Inter would. How do you define "major" to include Juventus but not Ajax, Marseille, Red Star Belgrade, PSV etc etc. How "big" do they want the tournament to be? And if City win it before 2018....
BimboBob
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It's one big cash cow for the clubs and for UEFA so why wouldn't they try and protect their baby? They tried to do it with FFP when we crashed their little get togethers and now they are thinking of doing this.
The 'big' clubs want to continue being 'big' clubs irrespective of their league positions and it's not hard to see why. Money. Cash. Wonga.
Fuck you fans of other clubs, no wait, just fuck you fans.
The 'big' clubs want to continue being 'big' clubs irrespective of their league positions and it's not hard to see why. Money. Cash. Wonga.
Fuck you fans of other clubs, no wait, just fuck you fans.
Prestwich_Blue
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The original G14 were:I know G14 doesn't officially exist anymore as they had to disband as part of a deal, but it's painfully naive to think these clubs still don't look after each other.
Rags
Liverpool
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Juventus
Inter
AC Milan
Bayern Munich
Borussia Dortmund
PSG
Marseille
PSV Eindhoven
Ajax
Porto
They were then joined by
Arsenal, Bayer Leverkusen, Lyon & Valencia
The ones in bold & italics got into the last 16. That's 7 out of the 18.
The ones in italics only were in the group stage but came 3rd or 4th. That's 5 out of 18.
The rest weren't involved in this year's group stage so that's 6 out of 18.
That means 11 out of the original 18 G14 clubs failed to get into the group stage or through it.
BimboBob
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The original G14 were:
Rags
Liverpool
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Juventus
Inter
AC Milan
Bayern Munich
Borussia Dortmund
PSG
Marseille
PSV Eindhoven
Ajax
Porto
They were then joined by
Arsenal, Bayer Leverkusen, Lyon & Valencia
The ones in bold & italics got into the last 16. That's 7 out of the 18.
The ones in italics only were in the group stage but came 3rd or 4th. That's 5 out of 18.
The rest weren't involved in this year's group stage so that's 6 out of 18.
That means 11 out of the original 18 G14 clubs failed to get into the group stage or through it.
Are the 11 failures part of this group thinking about auto qualification?
Prestwich_Blue
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You'd imagine so.Are the 11 failures part of this group thinking about auto qualification?
What makes everyone think that MCFC won't be involved in this new 'party'?
due to us only being formed in 2008 we have no history so we have no chance of being invited to dine at the top table with all the billy big balls of world football.
malg
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I think the day anyone who didn't win their league earned a spot was the beginning of the end. 4th place teams are a fucking joke.Surely can't happen but if it did I think it's the beginning of the end.