Everton (A) | PL | Post Match Thread

[Why are you Guehi?]

Celebrating the third goal, rather than rushing back to the centre circle, was very odd.

I think he was aware that the game had 10 seconds left in it.

 

[supercity88]

It was a flashback to times earlier this season where we had a spell of absolute chaos.

We were easily pinning them in and creating chances, even if most weren't clear cut and with a 1-0 lead just needed to keep doing the same things. But Everton pushed a bit further forward and we engaged in a physical battle we will never win. Bernardo was as guilty as anyone for being sloppy in possession. We kept trying to progress the ball from the back, but with Everton more committed played some horrific football and just couldn't get out.

We got away with it largely thanks to Donnarumma but then Guehi makes the mistake and we capitulate.

What was positive is that we did regroup and get back into the game, taking a valuable point. We can't look too far back - I don't think it's worth adding it to the dropped points at other times this season. We got back into the game and rescued something which is a great display of our mentality. But to get to our very best we don't have that 13 minute spell, we get the 2nd goal and play keep ball.

The aim now is to win all of our remaining games, including the FA Cup final. Two domestic trophies would be an excellent season, if we get to 83pts that's 12 more than last campaign and if you look at points dropped from winning positions this calendar year that's another 12 and we're looking at comfortably winning the title.

 

[Nellies left peg]

Nunes, cherki, semenyo and guehi shocking tonight

Why on earth didn’t some of our defenders especially Nunes change their studs, was like watching Bambi on ice

 

[east2]

Everton had far better chances than we did. Ndiaye was guilty of poor finishing

The game should have been won by half time.
We had enough chances finish them off, allowing them to cause chaos in the second half was our own undoing, we lost all discipline and became a shambles.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Last night just shows the team is still in a rebuild. The pieces arent fully there and performances like that happen.

That 2nd half, my word absolutely awful. Midfield bypassed time and time again, the defence making schoolboy errors. Nunes has improved alot but he's still got a bozo moment in him. Guehi the worst game I've seen from him. I can forgive it from Khusanov and O'Reilly a bit more given their in experience and age, but you expect alot from from the other two.

Nico G, some fans on twitter genuinely believe we've been a better team with him in it than Rodri. He went missing 2nd half, far too easy to bypass him and we were better when Kovacic came on. Half of those attacks dont happen with Rodri there.

Thank god Doku was good and he kept going at Everton all evening, as I think he's just about kept us in the title race, even if it is a very small chance now. Were relying on West Ham to do us a big favour as I cant see the other two getting anything against Arsenal.

Not a lot the midfield could do. Pickford launched it over the top of them.

 

[HelloCity]

Palace won't roll over for anyone, especially at their gaff.

They’ll play a b team. Confidence league final is the following mid week. Pray they lose the semi.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Dixon's take on the assassination attempt.

 

[Goater101]

The new lads who haven’t been involved in title races were so poor last night.

 

[coolcity]

But if the linesman flagged for offside, don't you have to restart the game with a free kick after offside
Forget anything else because they should have stopped. Guehi pass was not a restart ?

Exactly this.

 

[noseve]

Plus when they started to get on top and you could see them equalising, some sides would have taken a tactical time out to regroup.

I don't want to see us doing this, though.

Standards are important - it's bad enough that a few of ours are starting to roll around as though they've been shot.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Great goal from Haaland, and he deserves credit for dragging us back into it ... but he was practically non existent otherwise ..... where was he when Semenyo put that early low cross into the six yard box ??? And, as one of our tallest players, why didn't he take it upon himself to get to that Everton corner, or at least try to put the scorer off ???

Least he had a good laugh with the Everton boys.

 

[waspish]

Cunts are already at it!!!

Knew when this went viral it would bite us on the arse somewhere along the line.

Yep we was poor but a team who bottles it don’t come back from 3-1 down away at a club like Everton to get a point a team who bottles it is a team that were 2 up against that wolves team and ended up drawing..

 

[john blue]

You knew we were going to throw it away when Bernardo gave it away a few times before their first goal.

his worst game of the season

 

[remember arthur mann]

his worst game of the season

I thought he played differently last night. Slightly more reserved.

 

[noseve]

I think he was aware that the game had 10 seconds left in it.

Certainly unlikely that anything would have come from it, but win the ball, a Hail Mary against a rattled defence with a charged up Haaland and who knows?

I'm sure that at Anfield a lot of us were pleased to have 'rescued a point' when Bernie equalised - but he had other ideas.

Moot point now, though.

 

[remember arthur mann]

The game should have been won by half time.
We had enough chances finish them off, allowing them to cause chaos in the second half was our own undoing, we lost all discipline and became a shambles.

Too much passing around the box rather than attempting an effort on goal. APU.

 

[hilts]

True, but it's hard to see how arsenal deserve it either.

Because they will have more points than all the other teams.

 

[coolcity]

It was a flashback to times earlier this season where we had a spell of absolute chaos.

We were easily pinning them in and creating chances, even if most weren't clear cut and with a 1-0 lead just needed to keep doing the same things. But Everton pushed a bit further forward and we engaged in a physical battle we will never win. Bernardo was as guilty as anyone for being sloppy in possession. We kept trying to progress the ball from the back, but with Everton more committed played some horrific football and just couldn't get out.

We got away with it largely thanks to Donnarumma but then Guehi makes the mistake and we capitulate.

What was positive is that we did regroup and get back into the game, taking a valuable point. We can't look too far back - I don't think it's worth adding it to the dropped points at other times this season. We got back into the game and rescued something which is a great display of our mentality. But to get to our very best we don't have that 13 minute spell, we get the 2nd goal and play keep ball.

The aim now is to win all of our remaining games, including the FA Cup final. Two domestic trophies would be an excellent season, if we get to 83pts that's 12 more than last campaign and if you look at points dropped from winning positions this calendar year that's another 12 and we're looking at comfortably winning the title.

I've never been one for pointing at specific games, especially under the circumstances (i.e. two players only coming into the team in January, others only coming in due to injuries and so on), and you can't be 100% all the time but if I was to point to one game it would be the Old Trafford one, and I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it. We played pretty well in the Spurs and West Ham matches overall, just didn't convert enough chances but in the one at the rags we were pretty awful and it's the only match in which we've not played well this year.

Overall, the main difference between this side and the really good seasons is we're not keeping the ball as well as we used to and that's one of the big differences that Rodri makes. But I do think this group of players is good enough, you don't get to two finals with one trophy already in the bank and favourites for the other one, while still being in a title race (just) with 4 matches to play if you don't have something special about you. Just wish all the melts would recognise it instead of acting like entitled brats expecting us to win everything all the time.

 

[PragueBlue]

Great goal from Haaland, and he deserves credit for dragging us back into it ... but he was practically non existent otherwise ..... where was he when Semenyo put that early low cross into the six yard box ??? And, as one of our tallest players, why didn't he take it upon himself to get to that Everton corner, or at least try to put the scorer off ???

I think Haaland worked very hard, did a fair amount of defensive work and kept their defenders on their toes.

Semenyo's low cross was actually a poor shot that he dragged wide and you can't expect Haaland to be everywhere at corners. He can't be marking players at the front post, back post and also their CBs in the middle, all at the same time.

 

[East Level 2]

IF we’ve blown it (I remain hopeful until it’s impossible) then it wasn’t last night alone. There have been a few performances like that throughout the season. Too slow and not clinical enough in attack, sloppy and chaotic in midfield and defence. Unforced errors, slipping all over the place (wtf was going on there, I didn’t notice their players doing it?) All of our own doing unfortunately, again.

Only "a few performances"? We've thrown away twelve or fourteen points from winning positions and looked bloody awful in a couple of others (rags away, Spurs home etc).
You're 100% correct about unforced errors though.
I accept we're in a rebuild but unconvinced by too many of our recent signings including Doku. Fantastic game last night but his goal involvement doesn't seem high enough for someone who had been here three years with the best striker in the country alongside him.
We've won lots of stuff recently, often due to the sheer brilliance of key players. My worry is that we just don't have players of the right calibre at the moment. Cherki, Semenyo and one or two others might be great on their day, but we need them to be great far more frequently.