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[East Level 2]

To be fair, we did provide a couple of decent assists for them both.

Bit like the 2024 cup final when the only clear cut chance we created was for the rags.

 

[Shirley]

Not sure , bottling is usually when the firm favourites who have topped the league all season finish in 2nd place , we have had two days at the top of the league , and have never been fancied to win the title by anybody , maybe we should be appreciated for the fact we have created a title race . If we hadnt stepped up the Goons would have won the title by Easter , so well done Pep and the players , a season of transition has turned into a probable two trophies , champions league football and developed some very promising young players for a very optimistic 2026/7 season.
If we do win the FA Cup the Community Shield will be our fourth visit to Wembley in 2026 , bloody expensive as well

I’m sure I’ve read that it will be in Cardiff this year.

 

[NJMCFC184]

Coming out their were a few scuffles , dodgy having coaches right at the end of where 2 separate fan bases come out.

 

[Blue Maverick]

I’m sure I’ve read that it will be in Cardiff this year.

Yes it is.

 

[shevtheblue]

I\ve been saying for a good number of seasons, including every title winning season, when a chance has gone begging that any journeymen striker from the top two divisions would bury it!

Doesn't really stick though because we have one of the best finishers ever in the team, and we've managed to get him missing chances as well! I guess we create more chances than other teams, but i'm sure someone has the data in how many big chances we miss. Against Everton in the first half, we were making chances but barely made Pickford work, it was comical at times.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Doesn't really stick though because we have one of the best finishers ever in the team, and we've managed to get him missing chances as well! I guess we create more chances than other teams, but i'm sure someone has the data in how many big chances we miss. Against Everton in the first half, we were making chances but barely made Pickford work, it was comical at times.

I've just been watching some highlights from a previous Brentford game and having seen Cancelo miss three chances of a similar fashion I thought much the same thing?

 

[bg1968]

Bottling is not winning from place of advantage which we had lost arsenal win


Not beating Burnley was first step towards bottljob given our gd yesterday was other

Google translate is your friend :)

 

[.db.]

When Arsenal win the league. It will be us that has bottled it.

Bottling it is when you don’t show up at all. Liverpool have bottled the league this season spending about £400m as Champions and being nowhere near it.

I wouldn’t call Arsenal’s seasons where they had a healthy lead and not winning it, as bottling it. They threw it away more than bottled it.

I think we’ve done well to be where we are as this team is very early in its development.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

Just looking again at the match. Everton committed 15 fouls - and 7 on Doku. Clear and organised targeting that

 

[Vic]

Anyone able to explain in simple terms as to why the linesman put his flag up for the Guehi backpass incident?

Would he not have known it was a new phase to play?

Does seem a bit bizarre that hes 10 yards from the incident but clearly thinks that whatever Barry did was classed as offside

And then based on that, what is then classed as the clear and obvious error in order to change the onfield decision

There is no explanation. An experienced assistant referee (a) saw Barry in an offside position and just stopped, (b) didn't then keep up with play, and (c) whether by colusion with the referee or off his own initiative he then put his flag up for a non-existent offside. He'll be marked down for that.

 

[Inca Roads Bert]

Utter nonsense.

Bottling is when you’ve got a free run, are miles odds on favourites and then screw it up.

Until the last month or so we haven’t even looked like contending for the title. I think it’s fair to say we’re in a better position than anyone thought we would be just 3 months ago.

This, all day.
Some wet wipes or closeted tarquins rabitting about it.

 

[eyalluvitt]

Everton Man United draw at old Trafford opened the doors for a our title win

Who know this draw might open the door for arsenal

It was already open, just a bit wider now

 

[warringtonblue]

Bottling it is when you don’t show up at all. Liverpool have bottled the league this season spending about £400m as Champions and being nowhere near it.

I wouldn’t call Arsenal’s seasons where they had a healthy lead and not winning it, as bottling it. They threw it away more than bottled it.

I think we’ve done well to be where we are as this team is very early in its development.

There is no other word for Arsenal over the last few seasons apart from bottlers, they are the definition of the word

 

[bluenova]

Doesn't really stick though because we have one of the best finishers ever in the team, and we've managed to get him missing chances as well! I guess we create more chances than other teams, but i'm sure someone has the data in how many big chances we miss. Against Everton in the first half, we were making chances but barely made Pickford work, it was comical at times.

Big chances missed is always a funny stat. Erling is top for the Premier League, but Igor Thiago is second, and of course they're the two top scorers as well. Top for missed big chances in Germany is Harry Kane, and in Spain it's Mbappe - not coincidentally, they're the top scorers too.

 

[Tolmie scores]

It's the usual meltdown, everybody looking for someone to blame but apart from the bizarre offside rule (and there was a hint of offside for their third, probably wasn't but no cameras, no VAR, no checks), and for the second I thought Khusanov was fouled. But we know, or should, that we're not quite there yet in terms of being title challengers yet here we are, still in with an (abeit outside) chance.

But nobody has given Everton any credit, it's the usual [insert team we're playing this week here] hate nonsense, but to be fair to them they put 3 past Chelsea a couple of weeks ago, only lost their derby to a 1000th minute goal, and I think that's the 5th time they've scored 3 goals this season which is rare for a mid-table team. We all knew it was going to be a tough match, yet suddenly everyone seems surprised that's exactly how it turned out. I said ahead of the match that I thought this was likely to be tougher than Bournemouth.

100% agree, this winning all five in a row none sense...we haven't been close to that sort of form all season, (nor have Arsenal really) Everton away, for us is a tough game. and so it proved. One thing that i think Pep doesn't like is unfamiliarity, new stadiums, interim managers etc.. i think that slight lack of 'confidence' / self assurance if you like, could be translated to the team. I think he feels so much better when its against a team he sort of knows, stadium he is used etc...then again... that might not have anything to do with it. Everton are pushing for a top 7 spot, in old money an away draw with a good team like this was considered decent. Also we scored three goal of the season (for us) contenders in one game and away! unheard of ...well done lads really - although the last goal post injury time..if boot was t'other foot!!

 

[Tolmie scores]

There is no other word for Arsenal over the last few seasons apart from bottlers, they are the definition of the word

Or,,,,,not as good as the fawning 'meeeja' make out, they lack a lot when Odegaard is off it... also Trossard, when on form they are really creative, BUT ..like Saka this season, they are so inconsistent..so not really a class side I don't think

 

[Tolmie scores]

Annoying to be so unorganised after 9 days to prepare

We did have to drag half the first team off the bench at wobbly! show's we have a lot of weaker players really from say 13 - 25 in the squad really..i'll include our Phil in that group this season...we need to address that lack of quality next season.. also what is it about academy football, for all our wins, trophies etc.. we rarely have players that can genuinely step up.... i know it's tough but so many are international youth players, prem youth league & cup winners etc... yet really struggle even when in their 20's.. only have to look at the lack of impact they have when they leave..Rogers aside,, although a Middlesbrough prodigy

 

[salfordbluetrue]

Pretty sure we are creating less chances this season, than years where we were in our pomp, but that is not why we dropped points against Everton, second half they came out very aggressive and the ref allowed it. The offside goal is offside, phase 1 he is offside phase 2 he moves towards the deflected ball, phase 3 Guehi plays the ball, he is not offside, phase 4 the back pass, he is not offside, easiest way to call it, when an offside player comes back into his own half to challenge, he is offside every time, Donnarumma is fouled by Tarkowski he bounces Donna with no intent to play the ball, which Donna may have got, Tarkowski should have been sent off for his last man, direct on goal foul on Haaland, Keane should have been sent off for not being in control, the same reason Kompany was sent off for. ( point we have dropped since Christmas because of Ref VAR double tagging, did you see Bernardo, he could not be bothered with ref excuses after the Donna foul he just wanted to get the game started.
City were very good against Everton, just not good enough against PGMOL, in years past we were.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

We did have to drag half the first team off the bench at wobbly! show's we have a lot of weaker players really from say 13 - 25 in the squad really..i'll include our Phil in that group this season...we need to address that lack of quality next season.. also what is it about academy football, for all our wins, trophies etc.. we rarely have players that can genuinely step up.... i know it's tough but so many are international youth players, prem youth league & cup winners etc... yet really struggle even when in their 20's.. only have to look at the lack of impact they have when they leave..Rogers aside,, although a Middlesbrough prodigy

totally agree with this, we have produced some outstanding talents but very little in our under 23s would Pep trust to start in the first 11 even with injuries, there is no one answer but my method would be to move all our over 18 British players out on loan to foreign leagues, and bring in foreign youth players, a lot closer to our first team, obviously not a one size fits all, but it does give Pep options when needed

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Or,,,,,not as good as the fawning 'meeeja' make out, they lack a lot when Odegaard is off it... also Trossard, when on form they are really creative, BUT ..like Saka this season, they are so inconsistent..so not really a class side I don't think

Their defence is is though and that’s where titles are won. They aren’t very entertaining but they are solid. I thought we had to play really well to beat them the other week and on the back of that performance I can’t see any of the final 3 games giving them
Any trouble. I can see ours giving us trouble though.