Toffeedude
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Fixed thatDon't write off Palace, Forest and Leicester, Liverpool
Fixed thatDon't write off Palace, Forest and Leicester, Liverpool
I wouldn’t criticise most clubs with empty seats. Behind each empty seat is a supporter who either couldn’t make it, who would have otherwise, or a supporter who couldn’t afford the day.I have worked in Sunderland and it isn't a big place. Nothing wrong with their attendance record either given their recent history. No criticism from me to either them or Everton on that front.
I get the Sunderland point. Any time they're on the box, there's plenty of empty seats visible. Which is strange, given they're supposedly a huge club, in a one club town, with a large catchment area. But you don't see many empty seats at Goodison as a rule. Yes, it's a smaller ground than the SOL, but even so. There's lots of things we can have a go at Everton for (given events of the past few years). Their attendances isn't one of them.

So; Sunderland are filling approximately 79% of their stadium's capacity (48,707). That's undoubtedly very impressive. Sheffield United are filling, again approximately, 89% of their stadium's capacity (32,050). And Norwich are filling 95% of Carrow Rd's capacity (27,359). And yet one of them is recognised as being in an area known as the "hotbed of football". Which of those clubs have the better (better being a subjective term) support, though?
AgreedI wouldn’t criticise most clubs with empty seats. Behind each empty seat is a supporter who either couldn’t make it, who would have otherwise, or a supporter who couldn’t afford the day.
Sunderland hold the first (32,157), second (30,847) and third (30,118) best ever average attendances in the third tier in English football history. City have been knocked down to fourth in that list now because of them.I get the Sunderland point. Any time they're on the box, there's plenty of empty seats visible. Which is strange, given they're supposedly a huge club, in a one club town, with a large catchment area. But you don't see many empty seats at Goodison as a rule. Yes, it's a smaller ground than the SOL, but even so. There's lots of things we can have a go at Everton for (given events of the past few years). Their attendances isn't one of them.
Norwich are always well supported.So; Sunderland are filling approximately 79% of their stadium's capacity (48,707). That's undoubtedly very impressive. Sheffield United are filling, again approximately, 89% of their stadium's capacity (32,050). And Norwich are filling 95% of Carrow Rd's capacity (27,359). And yet one of them is recognised as being in an area known as the "hotbed of football". Which of those clubs have the better (better being a subjective term) support, though?
Sunderland population (2022); 344,000
Sheffield population (2022); 741,000
Norwich population (2023); 143,000
Have to be honest, I find that Norwich attendance percentage figure hard to believe, particularly given the size of the city. Perhaps my debatable maths skills (and Google's stadium and population figures are awry? And, of course, not every home supporting attendee at those games come from Sunderland, Sheffield or Norwich.
As a Leeds fan most of my attention is on Everton and Forest. The others probably have enough to survive but never say never. We’re probably still the favourites as we’ve been left with a lot to do although I think we have a squad capable of getting out of it and Gracia should be a huge improvement on Marsch.Don't write off Palace, Forest and Leicester.
I reckon a brain damaged duck off his head on crystal meth would be an improvement on Marsch tbf. How he managed to fuck Leeds up so badly, so quickly is beyond me. Went well beyond being a bad fit too, there's no one thing you could pinpoint, as opposed to Potter and the lack of goals.As a Leeds fan most of my attention is on Everton and Forest. The others probably have enough to survive but never say never. We’re probably still the favourites as we’ve been left with a lot to do although I think we have a squad capable of getting out of it and Gracia should be a huge improvement on Marsch.
Most shocking thing is our Director of Football researched him for 2 years and came to the conclusion he was the perfect successor to Bielsa. After sacking Marsch he then almost appointed Alfred Schreuder until the fans protested against. If we stay up and then get new owners the first thing they need to do is sack that guy.I reckon a brain damaged duck off his head on crystal meth would be an improvement on Marsch tbf. How he managed to fuck Leeds up so badly, so quickly is beyond me. Went well beyond being a bad fit too, there's no one thing you could pinpoint, as opposed to Potter and the lack of goals.
Could be wrong but percentage wise Norwich have always filled their ground.So; Sunderland are filling approximately 79% of their stadium's capacity (48,707). That's undoubtedly very impressive. Sheffield United are filling, again approximately, 89% of their stadium's capacity (32,050). And Norwich are filling 95% of Carrow Rd's capacity (27,359). And yet one of them is recognised as being in an area known as the "hotbed of football". Which of those clubs have the better (better being a subjective term) support, though?
Sunderland population (2022); 344,000
Sheffield population (2022); 741,000
Norwich population (2023); 143,000
Have to be honest, I find that Norwich attendance percentage figure hard to believe, particularly given the size of the city. Perhaps my debatable maths skills (and Google's stadium and population figures are awry? And, of course, not every home supporting attendee at those games come from Sunderland, Sheffield or Norwich.
All just tourists hoping to see Delia go off on one again :)Could be wrong but percentage wise Norwich have always filled their ground.
It always seems to be full for league games.
Don't watch Leeds so based purely on league points, marsch got 42 points from his 37 games in charge.As a Leeds fan most of my attention is on Everton and Forest. The others probably have enough to survive but never say never. We’re probably still the favourites as we’ve been left with a lot to do although I think we have a squad capable of getting out of it and Gracia should be a huge improvement on Marsch.
It's more the way he was trending, their performances were getting steadily worse and their results fewer, plus they were losing to the teams around them which is nearly certainly fatal in a relegation scrap.Don't watch Leeds so based purely on league points, marsch got 42 points from his 37 games in charge.
That's not a bad record.
Actually 33 points from 32 in the league. Had a lucky run at the end of last season beating Norwich, Watford and 2 teams with 10 and 9 men. Started this season well but then won just 2 games in 17 throwing away a lot of our on paper winnable fixtures.Don't watch Leeds so based purely on league points, marsch got 42 points from his 37 games in charge.
That's not a bad record.
Don’t you mean mostly blue.I work with loads of scousers mostly red and the shit they get from the rats reminds me of the way the scum ridiculed us for years.
I would love it if they got bought out by someone like Qatar.
Hope they stay up
I think in the 00s they moved their target to us and then in recent years forgot we even existed.I work with loads of scousers mostly red and the shit they get from the rats reminds me of the way the scum ridiculed us for years.
I would love it if they got bought out by someone like Qatar.
Hope they stay up
Sunderland hold the first (32,157), second (30,847) and third (30,118) best ever average attendances in the third tier in English football history. City have been knocked down to fourth in that list now because of them.
Sunderland’s average attendance in the Championship this season is 38,583.