Everton v City post match

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[Gray]

No, there is no comparison between the two. Pep is far superior as both a manager and tactician. Mancini was what we needed at that time and he did great to teach us how to win. But we've moved on.

Only trouble is we have moved on but backwards.

 

[Mancityus]

Bravo, Stones, Clichy have showed enough that should make them un-selectable for any of the top 10 team in PL forget about one which has ambitions of topping league.

 

[Keeper!]

The second goal completely destroyed our confidence. We controlled the first half, and were unlucky to not be two goals up.

Why unlucky? Sterling who I might add was decent today, should have scored....he did not

 

[Kazzydeyna]

Genuine question.

Would you get rid of Pep tonight if Mancini would come in tomorrow?

Yes.

As would anybody with half a brain.

Bob not only 'got' us as a club, but he surely 'got' what it takes to win in England.

Sometimes a manager just 'works' for a particular club. Bob did so for us. Sacking him was criminal in its stupidity. Criminal.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Probably about the 6th or so time we have been 3 or 4 down in the last 18 months I think.

14 of the last 22 shots on target have gone in. That's only 8 goals better than playing without a keeper. We'd be better off playing with 11 outfield players and just playing Fly Keeper.

I keep seeing on here comments like 'the flappers will be out' but in reality the 'flappers' have been expressing concern over problems that are becoming realer and realer as the weeks go by.

We have bought ridiculously badly but the worst thing is I'm not convinced in the slightest that we will put that right in the next few windows. We will no doubt continue to concentrate on the flavour of the month signings like Otamendi and Mangala both were or we will carry on blowing 40-50m on another young lad we could have had for 10m the year before. Or we will spend 30m on another keeper only to find out that he's also not as good as what we loaned out in August. It's a joke. We are not only losing games, but we are going 3 and 4 down to mediocre teams. We have somehow become both the biggest scalp and the softest touch and as a result teams find an extra 20% against us and as soon as a game gets away from us we become an even bigger shambles.

That's about as damning a stat in terms of where we're heading at the moment, as I've seen. Going 1-0 down in 14 of our last 22 games is another. For a side that's supposedly one of English football's elite, it's piss poor

 

[Sam W]

There is a problem of playing players who are out the door in 6 months.

Today five of the seven players whose main responsibility was to defend already know they're gone in the summer.

And there's no captain on the field with the authority to bollock them.

If the management has plan for what comes next they better bring that forward or it will be the same until the end of the season.

 

[mancunianpear]

No, there is no comparison between the two. Pep is far superior as both a manager and tactician. Mancini was what we needed at that time and he did great to teach us how to win. But we've moved on.

Take your point, but no way can you say Pep is far superior as a tactician. I can't for the life of me remember Mancini losing games by 4 goals like Leicester and today.

 

[kashmir]

No, there is no comparison between the two. Pep is far superior as both a manager and tactician. Mancini was what we needed at that time and he did great to teach us how to win. But we've moved on.

When is he going to show it? Not seen much of it lately

 

[David White]

spending money doesnt guarantee success. pep has been in the job barely half a season, with a squad of players that are old and not to his style. give it some time.

Really though, whilst I see what you're saying, Pep should play in a way that suits his personnel. If the players don't fit the system and you can't change the players, he has to change the system!

We were so flat in that game today it was embarrassing.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Let's be honest guys, how good, bad or indifferent Bravo is, had nothing to do with our defeat today.

We lost again because yet again we had all the possession but whilst we prioritise possession over attacking threat, we will rarely trouble an organised defence.

And as we push on more and more, we leave ourselves wide open and get caught.

It's the same every week. We only score when we move the ball quickly. Slow possession gets us nothing.

 

[SebastianBlue]

They are entitled to post & some of us are just as entitled thinking some of them are just ****s.

I think that's a fair deal.

And some are entitled to think that they are sad supporters of other clubs trying to pass some hours of their lives by running a muck on our forum.

Either way, I agree with you. I'll give it a rest and hope the discourse improves.

 

[Big Yaya Wilko 12]

The sad thing for me is that we created an environment to have a period of dominance. And in true City style messed it up by being to fixated on running before we could walk.

Agree 100%

Didn't think we'd ever look as bad as we do now after the 2012 title win.

 

[Helmet Cole]

So you'd rather loads of sideways passing and lose the games?

Can't remember saying that.

 

[Keeper!]

Not been the same since dejong

De Jong was a myth, great lad but very average footballer

 

[blueinsa]

Yes.

As would anybody with half a brain.

Bob not only 'got' us as a club, but he surely 'got' what it takes to win in England.

Sometimes a manager just 'works' for a particular club. Bob did so for us. Sacking him was criminal in its stupidity. Criminal.

Never going to happen but if it makes you sleep better then fair enough.

 

[cleavers]

We have somehow become both the biggest scalp and the softest touch and as a result teams find an extra 20% against us and as soon as a game gets away from us we become an even bigger shambles.

Everton didn't find an extra 20% today though, it was City lacking 20%, well in some cases players lacking 100%.

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

Appreciate that, but I was here when Allison was returned as Manager, afraid to say, the Purchases, decision making, and blind faith in the current incarnation of the new Messiah are completely scary. We also "believed" Allison would get it right eventually.

So what is the answer to the old players? Bring in the spring Chicken that is Messi>

Over the last 4-5 years I see parallels with 74 to 79, with the massive amounts squandered on ordinary, yes ordinary squad additions.

Hart for Bravo, read Corrigan for Macrae, at least we were big enough to bring back Corrigan. Stones at the moment reads Futcher or Caton,

Sorry I have an awful sense of DejaVu. I also anticipate a huge bid from China t turn Aguero's head at any given moment. Pep? he might fold at any given time.

He don't look happy. We look like we have called it horribly wrong, there have been a lot of purchases, young blood and very few of them look lke they have the bottle or stomach for a fight.

GULP ! This strikes a chord with me. Hope you're wrong

 

[Fat Chance]

To perform as he did in that last season was truly outstanding.

Undermined before a ball was kicked, deliberately hamstrung in the transfer market, knowing he would've been sacked but for agueroooo, and STILL he dragged us to top four and a cup final.

Then the news was leaked that he was being sacked , a deliberate act of sabotage made to make winning the cup as difficult as possible as -again - he had done a perfect job in the circumstances and winning the cup would make sacking him all the harder to justify.

And lo! Some city fans bought it and cheered.

They're not cheering now.

I thought Barca leaked the mancini sacking...

 

[ox-blue]

We were simply awful Old Slow Predictable bollocks week in week out !