Everton v Manchester City |16th| Official Matchday Thread

blue ranger said:
I will be criticised for this but the facts are: zabba first touch awful, passing shite, naive freekicks. Petrov lazy bastard doesn't want to make a tackle, bellers not a winger, can play up top or on left of a 433. Robinho awful, time to let him go. Can count good performances on one hand. Dejong passing v poor. Gud luk Bobby, now you will know this team needs improving. Got nothing to say about crocky. Worst ever signing. 4 mins FFS

Sums it up nicely,Zabaleta is simply a liability,Robhino - not worth a wank.
 
blue ranger said:
Gud luk Bobby, now you will know this team needs improving.

The one positive: He now knows he needs to get his cheque book out and we still have 2 weeks of January remaining.
 
blue ranger said:
I will be criticised for this but the facts are: zabba first touch awful, passing shite, naive freekicks. Petrov lazy bastard doesn't want to make a tackle, bellers not a winger, can play up top or on left of a 433. Robinho awful, time to let him go. Can count good performances on one hand. Dejong passing v poor. Gud luk Bobby, now you will know this team needs improving. Got nothing to say about crocky. Worst ever signing. 4 mins FFS

Agree with all this apart from the bellamy bit. Why can't more people see that robinho is never gonna do it for us.
 
Good draw second half looked more solid. first goal was
always going to be important everton got it and were comfortble
how smug does craig burley look toser
 
Good draw second half looked more solid. first goal was
always going to be important everton got it and were comfortble
how smug does craig burley look toser
 
It's just not been our day today, Tevez seemed to get a bit of a knock earlier on and it looks like it worried him and as a result he didn't have his usual performance, I think he wants to be fully fit for Tuesday and all of us do too. We had a few silly moments such as Richards giving away the penalty which there is just no excuse for and De Jong breaking away from the wall. We just seemed to lack the desire today and in all fairness Everton played well and we just couldn't seem to get through their defence, the ball just didn't seem to be able to get to any of our players in their area. I think it was a mix of bad luck and a lack of desire to win. Hopefully Mancini will give them a good talking to and the desire we seemed to lack today comes out full force on Tuesday.

There's nothing we can do about this result now but what we can do is use it as a lesson and learn from it, it's the past, lets look to the future and lets get ready for Tuesday.
 
Sabster said:
Lotuz said:
Fellaini is MOTM today! You are an idiot and no I never wanted Tevez out.

Hint the word TODAY - first time hes ever been man of the match in the pl


Fellaini was MOTM 4 times in his last 6 matches mate.
Even his own coach Moyes thinks Fellaini is the best midfielder in the PL, but yeah he'll probably knows f*** all and Fellaini is shit.
So shit, Chelsea are after him...
 
Lotuz said:
Sabster said:
Hint the word TODAY - first time hes ever been man of the match in the pl


Fellaini was MOTM 4 times in his last 6 matches mate.
Even his own coach Moyes thinks Fellaini is the best midfielder in the PL, but yeah he'll probably knows f*** all and Fellaini is shit.
So shit, Chelsea are after him...

thats a lie - just chekced fantasy premier league only got 3 bonus points on one occasion this season and tbh if you think that fellaini would get into our team then your having a laugh
 
The players will have gone onto the pitch with clear instructions based around the fact RSC was playing. So when he got injured the obvious thing to do would have been put Benjani on to play a similar role. Instead Robi came on but instead of changing our style we just continued as we were with RSC on. It's no surprise that we improved in attack when Benjani came on.

Petrov on the right is a shit tactic too, I thought he knew that after his first game when he changed things around after 20 minutes and switched Petrov to the left. Obviously hasn't learned from that.

Complete fuck up all round tonight, players and manager. All we can hope is that we don't have too many injuries, especially Tevez who stayed on despite having a niggle.
 
just watch the media whores, it was Hughes team when we won, now we lost it will be Mancinis team!!

Hopefully Bobby will fire them up for Tuesday.

prima
 
on refection i think which ever combination of players available to bobby manc the result would be similar,Everton played like it was there cup final,fair play beaten by a better side onthe day.A full strength team would of struggled.the ref gave them the decisions but thats normal there.move on bigger game on tuesday.
 
Thought Garrido and Benjani both done ok and great that to see SWP back in action.
Got to respect the substituting of Robhino,at least the manager seems prepared to act upon his mistakes.
Sadly seems like Robhino just hasnt the physical scope for this league and RSC is just too fragile but we've still time to bring in re-inforcements and push for top 4 and good FA cup run.
 
Sabster said:
Lotuz said:
Fellaini was MOTM 4 times in his last 6 matches mate.
Even his own coach Moyes thinks Fellaini is the best midfielder in the PL, but yeah he'll probably knows f*** all and Fellaini is shit.
So shit, Chelsea are after him...

thats a lie - just chekced fantasy premier league only got 3 bonus points on one occasion this season and tbh if you think that fellaini would get into our team then your having a laugh
Muhahaha are you serious? Fellaini was their best player last year and is still by far their best player.
 
Everton wanted this more than we did. Mancini has done well so far but if he is half the manager that I think he is, he'll realise that the team that finished, is the the team that should have been picked from the start.

As soon as I saw the line-up, I knew that EFC's brand of 'Ave It' football would cause us problems. For a match like this Benjani & SWP should have definitely started with the fragile creatives (Robbi, Petrov & Santa Cruz) coming on later as impact subs.

I'm gutted by the defeat, but it's gone, it's history, now what I'm more interested in is how we react to it. This will give us a good indicator of life under Mancini. Was Mancini aware of the bad feeling between Gollum and all things sky blue?
 
There are always going to be days when we're outplayed but to be outfought and out muscled consistently all game is quite another thing, not the first time it's happened either and Mancini will have a good idea by now about which players he can trust to work hard and those that don't put the required effort in or don't have the heart for battle.
Successful sides obviously need talent ( which we have) but they also need players with heart and we lack that at times when things aren't going our way.
In cricket terms we could be classed as flat track bullies.
Hopefully tuesday night will show our better side.
 
For 20 mins we looked pretty comfortable to be honest.
Everton then pushed up, stopping us from playing out from the back and forcing us to lay the ball back to our keeper who would punt possesion to them.We needed the midfield to come and make themselves available but it did not happen enough and when it did they gave the ball away cheaply.Whilst we have been able to play this way against the likes of Blackburn, Stoke and Wolves but it was never going to work at Goodison.
To play this way against the likes of Everton we needed a much higher tempo and players who are comfortable on the ball under pressure.
We never got close today and you have to give Everton credit for doing to us what we did to Chelsea.
Fellani and Pienaar won the midfield scrap today handsdown.

We are not there yet and there is plenty of work still to do but we will need to remain patient as fans and not get carried away.
Season is still wide open and teams will continue to drop points all around us.
Keep the Faith.
 
Brave decision to take Robbie off. As the teachers say, a learning experience is a changing experience. But none the less chastening for all that. I'm confident that Mancini has learned a lot about his players tonight and we will see changes.
 
so. . . . . 5 games in and we've seen huge improvements under Mancini, until tonight we'd won 4 games, conceded 1 goal and looked like champions, but even champions have bad days, as chelsea, utd and arsenal have shown on many occasions this season.
Any team would have struggled against everton tonight, they were brilliant, but that doesn't excuse a poor performance from our city boys.
To be honest, i think we did have an eye on tuesday, no-one wants to miss the big semi, and maybe everyone wanted to be fully fit for the game too, and with only 3 days til the game they didn't want to be tired, but that's the wrong attitude.
Bellamy probably shouldn't have started, neither should roque, they should have been saved for utd, as roque now looks like he'll miss out, and bellamy is autamatically a doubt as he can't really play 2 games in quick succession. When roque got injured it should have been benjani coming on, but i can see mancini's thinking in playing robi as in the first 5 minutes it was all city, we were looking quick, and playing the ball along the ground very smoothly, so maybe he thought that style would suit him, but i would have gone for beji personally.
Mancini will get us fired up for the derby, not that the players will need it, they know what the derby means, and they have their own points to prove after the last one. This is a minor hiccup, this league is far too tight for that result to matter too much. We will come back stronger than ever against utd, Viera will lead the way in the biggest debut imaginable.

Come on city, don't let us down, CTID
 

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