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standupifyouhatemanu

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After reading the pre and post match threads last night I think some of you need to take a reality check, especially the younger and newer fans.

As an older fan, my first game was in 66 which was also King Colins home debut, I'm sure we all have our favourite moments, my top 3 in reverse order;

Blackburn promotion day, Gillingham and Aguerrooooooooooooooooo

All 3 were typical City, Blackburn hitting the woodwork 4 or 5 times, Gillingham at Wembley, I never leave early but was just getting to my feet when Kev scored, and we all know what happened in 2012, all done the hard way.

But the point of my post is, we all probably have our worst day memories, mine is easy and out on it's own. the 97-98 season, stood on the Railway end at Edgeley with my youngest, beaten 3-1 and having to endure the County fans, 11000 of them (where are they now?) giving us stick, my son in tears dreading to go to school, far worse than a derby defeat that one! As I walked out that day I could only dream of what has transpired since, trophies, great days (1-6) some of the worlds best gracing our stadium.

With some of those comments on the threads yesterday you wouldn't think we were still on for a Quad, (it won't happen btw) but this is where we are.

I wonder how many of our newer fans would still be here if they had to endure what us wrinklies have? The song 30 odd years and we're still here is so apt for my generation.

So next time you're all moaning look back at what happened in those dark days and be thankful for what we now have. Supporting City is a roller coast journey which I wouldn't have any other way...
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
After reading the pre and post match threads last night I think some of you need to take a reality check, especially the younger and newer fans.

As an older fan, my first game was in 66 which was also King Colins home debut, I'm sure we all have our favourite moments, my top 3 in reverse order;

Blackburn promotion day, Gillingham and Aguerrooooooooooooooooo

All 3 were typical City, Blackburn hitting the woodwork 4 or 5 times, Gillingham at Wembley, I never leave early but was just getting to my feet when Kev scored, and we all know what happened in 2012, all done the hard way.

But the point of my post is, we all probably have our worst day memories, mine is easy and out on it's own. the 97-98 season, stood on the Railway end at Edgeley with my youngest, beaten 3-1 and having to endure the County fans, 11000 of them (where are they now?) giving us stick, my son in tears dreading to go to school, far worse than a derby defeat that one! As I walked out that day I could only dream of what has transpired since, trophies, great days (1-6) some of the worlds best gracing our stadium.

With some of those comments on the threads yesterday you wouldn't think we were still on for a Quad, (it won't happen btw) but this is where we are.

I wonder how many of our newer fans would still be here if they had to endure what us wrinklies have? The song 30 odd years and we're still here is so apt for my generation.

So next time you're all moaning look back at what happened in those dark days and be thankful for what we now have. Supporting City is a roller coast journey which I wouldn't have any other way...
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I've said it many times and I will say it again, I refuse for our highly paid, world class players to put in half arsed performances and us as fans should accept it because we have been shit in the past. Simple as.
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
After reading the pre and post match threads last night I think some of you need to take a reality check, especially the younger and newer fans.

As an older fan, my first game was in 66 which was also King Colins home debut, I'm sure we all have our favourite moments, my top 3 in reverse order;

Blackburn promotion day, Gillingham and Aguerrooooooooooooooooo

All 3 were typical City, Blackburn hitting the woodwork 4 or 5 times, Gillingham at Wembley, I never leave early but was just getting to my feet when Kev scored, and we all know what happened in 2012, all done the hard way.

But the point of my post is, we all probably have our worst day memories, mine is easy and out on it's own. the 97-98 season, stood on the Railway end at Edgeley with my youngest, beaten 3-1 and having to endure the County fans, 11000 of them (where are they now?) giving us stick, my son in tears dreading to go to school, far worse than a derby defeat that one! As I walked out that day I could only dream of what has transpired since, trophies, great days (1-6) some of the worlds best gracing our stadium.

With some of those comments on the threads yesterday you wouldn't think we were still on for a Quad, (it won't happen btw) but this is where we are.

I wonder how many of our newer fans would still be here if they had to endure what us wrinklies have? The song 30 odd years and we're still here is so apt for my generation.

So next time you're all moaning look back at what happened in those dark days and be thankful for what we now have. Supporting City is a roller coast journey which I wouldn't have any other way...
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I've been there as well, which is why I know how precious these opportunities are and I can see this season drifting through our fingers.

We went 35 years without a trophy, now no one seems to care if we win another one.
 
Tom_mcfc said:
I've said it many times and I will say it again, I refuse for our highly paid, world class players to put in half arsed performances and us as fans should accept it because we have been shit in the past. Simple as.
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What was half hearted about last night?
 
A great post, the type of which I still love to read.

I would go even further as to say, next time we're destroying a team, or in a great run of 5 wins in a row... also remember those years. Those false dawns (I'm only 29) getting relegated yet feeling blessed to see someone like Kinkladze. Singing about how shit we were, but how much we loved City. Never forget how we turned it round against Stoke, that season in Division 2 and suddenly went on a killing spree that won us a play off place. And then magical Gillingham, where my 10 year old best mate tells the story of how he was leaving the stadium, crying, and his father said, "Maybe next year son," and then Horlock (Horlock I think) scored...

Stuff like this, despite what the rags say, is golden history, well worth going back over and studying and reliving, when we've lost but especially when we're winning.

The difference between us and the reds (liverpool and united) is we don't brush our 'Alan Balls' and Gillingham's under the carpet. We take pride in them.
 
I agree in the main with the opening post. Some of the comment on here is fucking ludicrous at times.

However I don't think it's fair to say it's a generational thing, there's plenty of older fans that are prone to ridiculous comment and plenty of younger fans who have a more balanced view.
 
I fucking hate these threads. Yes we have a fantastic history of which we should be extremely proud of. We stood hand in hand with our club through thick and thin however we must now adjust to the reality that our club is striving to become a powerhouse. Just because we used to ride the leagues up and down whilst following in numbers does not mean that we should be OK with the performances of late because "at least it's not York away". Whilst it is imperative that we remain proud of our history of standing by the club, we must not allow it to cloud our judgement and settle for mediocrity in contrast with the millions spent in recent times.
 
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I 100% know where you're coming from OP, I only have to look back at the Pearce season, the whole second half of the season not scoring a home goal. However that is not us now, we have a squad that cost millions and should be doing a lot better. As the club evolves, so should we as fans. Our old issues i.e relegation, mid-table mediocrity are in the past, we now have Top 4, title charge issues to worry about, and these have replaced the old problems, do you know what i mean? haha. So we would probably feel the same way now about dropping out of top 4 as we would have back in the day about getting relegated (maybe not quite, but very close).

We can all appreciate where we have come from, but now we rightfully expect more.
 
I'm in the older category, but I don't need anyone else to tell me how I should think.
My own, personal expectations are that the team should give 100% every match (they did last night) and that the manager tries everything to win the game (50/50 on this, obviously he had a positive HT talk as we were much better in the second half but the lack of more tactical substitutions was a negative IMO).
 
uwe rosler 28 said:
What was half hearted about last night?
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Absolutely nothing. Howard had a good game (how many goalkeepers do when they come to The Etihad?), last ditch Everton defending in the second half and a thoroughly disreputable ref. I thought the first half was pretty boring but we did more than enough to have won the game comfortably in the second half. Just wish Rigger East had done enough!
 
uwe rosler 28 said:
What was half hearted about last night?
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The entire night for all bar 15 mins in the 2nd half which soon fizzled out.

The ground was dead. No one would believe that this was a venue hosting a team that was one win from going top in Janaury
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
After reading the pre and post match threads last night I think some of you need to take a reality check, especially the younger and newer fans.

As an older fan, my first game was in 66 which was also King Colins home debut, I'm sure we all have our favourite moments, my top 3 in reverse order;

Blackburn promotion day, Gillingham and Aguerrooooooooooooooooo

All 3 were typical City, Blackburn hitting the woodwork 4 or 5 times, Gillingham at Wembley, I never leave early but was just getting to my feet when Kev scored, and we all know what happened in 2012, all done the hard way.

But the point of my post is, we all probably have our worst day memories, mine is easy and out on it's own. the 97-98 season, stood on the Railway end at Edgeley with my youngest, beaten 3-1 and having to endure the County fans, 11000 of them (where are they now?) giving us stick, my son in tears dreading to go to school, far worse than a derby defeat that one! As I walked out that day I could only dream of what has transpired since, trophies, great days (1-6) some of the worlds best gracing our stadium.

With some of those comments on the threads yesterday you wouldn't think we were still on for a Quad, (it won't happen btw) but this is where we are.

I wonder how many of our newer fans would still be here if they had to endure what us wrinklies have? The song 30 odd years and we're still here is so apt for my generation.

So next time you're all moaning look back at what happened in those dark days and be thankful for what we now have. Supporting City is a roller coast journey which I wouldn't have any other way...
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Good post, and very relevant.

I think you have taken the wrong conclusion though. The hunger and desire for success from 35 years of frustration fuelled us. The players were anxious to be the team that ended that run and put themselves in the history books. There were games when Kompany in particular was driven. It changed last season, and now it just seems to be the way it is.

I appreciate the football club is a million miles from where it was, and we aren't going back there again. But then again we have stopped moving forward for the moment and we should not just accept that because it's better than it was under Alan Ball.

Anyone who does anything in life never settles for being 2nd best and anything short of the very best they can be.
 
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