Explosion at MEN Arena/Victoria Station

Trouble is that they could have searched everybody and it still would have happened..

This unfortunately.

Terrorists want our society to grind to a halt and our lives to be ruined and miserable and we just can't allow that to happen.

Impossible to search 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 people at a gig or match it just is.
 
ITs the Great Manchester Run on Sunday I hope it goes ahead it will show these bastards what we are made of

I'm doing the half marathon and more determined than ever to run it after this, these cunts aren't going to stop me and hopefully others way of life. Been discussions in the office this morning regarding is it safe going to the football, concerts and the like, i've just said you can't let the fuckers win, it's what they want for us to live in fear.

I hope everyone who was going to run and to support turns out on Sunday to show these fuckers that they won't.
 
I'm doing the half marathon and more determined than ever to run it after this, these cunts aren't going to stop me and hopefully others way of life. Been discussions in the office this morning regarding is it safe going to the football, concerts and the like, i've just said you can't let the fuckers win, it's what they want for us to live in fear.

I hope everyone who was going to run and to support turns out on Sunday to show these fuckers that they won't.

Well said.
 
This unfortunately.

Terrorists want our society to grind to a halt and our lives to be ruined and miserable and we just can't allow that to happen.

Impossible to search 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 people at a gig or match it just is.

I remember the Semi vs Arsenal at Wembley, security there was more a formality and it would've been the easiest thing in the world to smuggle something in, from a bottle of beer to something far more sinister.

They do it because law requires them to look like they're on top of things but in reality thorough searches of everyone coming just can't be done.
 
My heart goes out to every victim, every family member connected, every friend, every member of the emergency services, Ariande Grande, every person who has offered support, everyone who has shed a tear today and every Mancunian and people beyond.

Terror affects every aspect of so many people's lives it's impossible to ever comprehend the effects.

Love Manchester.
 
Terrible, horrible news...no words! Watching the news this morning....so very proud of the way the people of Manchester have pulled together and supported each other. Makes me proud to be a Mancunian!
 
I'm doing the half marathon and more determined than ever to run it after this, these cunts aren't going to stop me and hopefully others way of life. Been discussions in the office this morning regarding is it safe going to the football, concerts and the like, i've just said you can't let the fuckers win, it's what they want for us to live in fear.

I hope everyone who was going to run and to support turns out on Sunday to show these fuckers that they won't.

A good friend of mine was shot in the leg at the Bataclan attacks but survived. He says he's been to more gigs since he got out of hospital than he previously had been to in his whole life. His attitude, which should be all our attitudes, was that our happiness is what offends these bastards. So lets make everyday one in which we do those things. Dance, see friends, sit in groups and share the things we love doing. Fuck fear.
 
Trouble is that they could have searched everybody and it still would have happened..
Precisely. You could have a venue where everybody was stip searched but it won't stop tragedies like this, these animals would just move on to a lesser defended target.

Our only effective defence against these fuckers are the various security services throughout the world. We as joe public will never know how many lives they are saving.
 
This unfortunately.

Terrorists want our society to grind to a halt and our lives to be ruined and miserable and we just can't allow that to happen.

Impossible to search 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 people at a gig or match it just is.
The sad thing is that the attack is still happening, the city centre is closed as is Victoria station, 10s of thousands of people unable to day to day things work travel etc..
 
A good friend of mine was shot in the leg at the Bataclan attacks but survived. He says he's been to more gigs since he got out of hospital than he previously had been to in his whole life. His attitude, which should be all our attitudes, was that our happiness is what offends these bastards. So lets make everyday one in which we do those things. Dance, see friends, sit in groups and share the things we love doing. Fuck fear.
Well said
 
I'm doing the half marathon and more determined than ever to run it after this, these cunts aren't going to stop me and hopefully others way of life. Been discussions in the office this morning regarding is it safe going to the football, concerts and the like, i've just said you can't let the fuckers win, it's what they want for us to live in fear.

I hope everyone who was going to run and to support turns out on Sunday to show these fuckers that they won't.
My son is running that, part of me feels I should talk him out of it but I'm going to watch him now
 
I went to see the Weeknd there a couple of months ago and the security was good but the way it was managed was really odd. They split up men and women in the queue for body searches and bag checks but it was organised as though men wouldn't have bags and women would.

Obviously if you were a man and had a bag it would probably get searched anyway but it just seemed bizarre to me at the time how they were doing it. No doubt anyway this is irrelevant and it sounds like this guy was able to just walk up the stairs and into the foyer from outside after the gig.

A girl from our HR in the office was at the gig last night and didn't turn up today, thankfully we have heard that she is safe but good god it's just horrendous to think of really.
We used to do this at nightclubs and events as standard mate, women are less likely to kick up a fuss if there's no lads present when their bags are searched, everyone's happier.
 
Problem is identifying them. Ultimately 99.999% of Muslims are decent people, no different to anyone of any other faith. Some people want to turn on the Muslim community and blame them for these events but we can't let that happen. It's a very twisted version of Islam these people follow anyway. Religion isn't the key factor here.

Whilst it's understandable why you are suggesting Muslim involvement it's not been confirmed and there are a number of potential nutters in our society. Don't add to future problems by speculating.
 
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A good friend of mine was shot in the leg at the Bataclan attacks but survived. He says he's been to more gigs since he got out of hospital than he previously had been to in his whole life. His attitude, which should be all our attitudes, was that our happiness is what offends these bastards. So lets make everyday one in which we do those things. Dance, see friends, sit in groups and share the things we love doing. Fuck fear.
Spot on Billy.. we don't think about being hurt/killed in a terrorist attack when we leave home neither do we think we will get run down by a bus.. but it happens to many..its all a part of life in the modern world.
All we can do is get on with things and live life..

A life living with terror is better than a life where terror controls it..
 
Tempted to sign up to the 10k this weekend (with zero training) as a big fuck you to the terrorists.

Want to raise money for the victims etc, does anyone know of a way of doing this?
 
from Facebook i now know quite a few people who were there last night. this is fucking terrible. an evil and disgusting act. seeing pictures of some of the missing kids is awful.
 
My work colleague's niece went to that Arena show last night. She's safe but very shaken and frightened regardless.

As others have wisely said, you simply can't let these pieces of shit win. I have to fly to Belgrade last month via Istanbul. I'm advised Serbia is the most bonkers of all the old Yugoslavian countries and there's obviously been the terror attack in Turkey. I'm still going. I'd watch Wales anywhere.

When I was a child there was fear of the IRA. Unknown Irish people were treated with suspicion in the army town I lived in. No different now.
 
Whilst it's understandable why you are suggesting Muslim involvement it's not been confirmed and there are a number of potential nutters in our society. Don't add to future problems by speculating.
I'm speaking more about terrorist attacks of the last 20 years in general but I see your point.
What I'm trying to say is, religion isn't what's to blame here regardless.
 
Saw this thread late last night and hoped there were no casualties then I hoped it wasn't an attack. Worst fears confirmed.

Beyond comprehension that someone can have a grievance over something and so they target to kill kids.
 

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