FA Cup 3rd Round Games 6/7/8/9 Jan

[Wanderingwolf]

Have Wolves got screens ? unless they’ve had them installed in the last couple of seasons - my son was a season ticket holder and a lot of their fans used to complain about the lack of screens

Yeah we’ve got screens

 

[Bluearmy]

Have Wolves got screens ? unless they’ve had them installed in the last couple of seasons - my son was a season ticket holder and a lot of their fans used to complain about the lack of screens

Yes

 

[Bluearmy]

It’s clear that this is a total failure by the VAR team (and the lines people and ref but you expect them to be crap). The Wolves player is clearly onside, and it can be clearly be shown beyond any reasonable doubt by the available tv angles. Will anything come from this? No. Will it ever be mentioned again? Probably not. Still, another town in England learns to hate the scousers a little bit more, and I suppose that’s no bad thing.

True, but if the linemen gave the right decisions I can’t help but feel VAR would’ve reversed them.

But they dont. Thats the point

 

[BerkshireBlue]

This is the very first frame that shows the very top blur of the head of the corner taker (bottom red circle).

I have drawn a crude offside line (that probably favours Liverpool more than anything).

The ball is difficult to see but is in the center of the centre red circle (it is just leaving the body of a player). It is still unknown if it came off a Liverpool or a Wolves player (as we saw with the Salah goal, it is apparently impossible for the corner taker to be offside if a Liverpool player was the last to touch the ball).

Either way, it is very difficult to believe that the corner taker was offside when the ball was cleared to them.

Here are the problems with this decision and VAR:

1) because the officials are not mic’d, there is no way to know if the flag was for the corner taker or some other fabricated infringement

2) there is a bling spot for VAR at Anfield (for “reasons”) that prevented any conclusive frame from being capture that would show the exact position of the corner taker when the ball was played

3) VAR provided no evidence of who last touch the ball, which would determine if the corner taker could be offside at all

4) the linesman flagged for offside in this instance, whilst the other linesman didn’t flag for offside for the Salah goal; these decisions substantive impacted the outcome of the goals (no flag for the Wolves goal and it would have stood; a flag for the Salah goal and it wouldn’t have stood).
There are serious issues with the current officiating and VAR (especially at certain grounds like Anfield).

There must be an historic game where VAR intervened in this stadium at that particular point of the pitch. I find it hard to believe no camera angle exists. The game is rigged

 

[Bluearmy]

Eni Aluko doesn't

I was shouting at the TV as she was saying it. Absolute moron, from the Garth Crooks/Paul merson/Michael Owen clan. A box ticking exercise!!

 

[Bantamgaz]

There must be an historic game where VAR intervened in this stadium at that particular point of the pitch. I find it hard to believe no camera angle exists. The game is rigged

There will be there is bound to be .......... amazing that nobody knew about this missing camera till it came to a decision regarding Liverpool ............... so in a nutshell clubs coming up from the championship have had to install probably had mass checks to make sure it’s up to standard ......... yet one of the giants of the game hasn’t ........... I can fooking guarantee that if say Forest had a missing camera the PL would have been all over it .................

 

[bluenova]

There must be an historic game where VAR intervened in this stadium at that particular point of the pitch. I find it hard to believe no camera angle exists. The game is rigged

There was a very similar goal ruled out in Italy, where the defender playing everyone onside was too near the corner flag. After the game it was confirmed that there are only a certain number of VAR calibrated cameras, and in some stadiums there are slight blind spots near the corners.

 

[Chris B]

But they dont. Thats the point

My point is they have two lines of defence, bent refs AND VAR on their side. If for some reason one of the on field officials makes a mistake and gives the right decision then VAR is there to ‘correct’ it.

Clearly, the on field officials are the most important because their decision gives a lead to VAR, and as we’ve seen in this game, that gives a default position that stands if VAR can’t act for some made up reason.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

There will be there is bound to be .......... amazing that nobody knew about this missing camera till it came to a decision regarding Liverpool ............... so in a nutshell clubs coming up from the championship have had to install probably had mass checks to make sure it’s up to standard ......... yet one of the giants of the game hasn’t ........... I can fooking guarantee that if say Forest had a missing camera the PL would have been all over it .................

Pigmol need to come out with a proper technical statement as this excuse of missing cameras is piss poor from them. We need to know why it's a different set up at Anfield

 

[BerkshireBlue]

There was a very similar goal ruled out in Italy, where the defender playing everyone onside was too near the corner flag. After the game it was confirmed that there are only a certain number of VAR calibrated cameras, and in some stadiums there are slight blind spots near the corners.

Blindspots in corners, one of the most crucial areas of the pitch. I don't believe any referring decisions in Italy either, it was probably Juve that benefited right?