mosssideblue
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Well, your decided already and he hasn't kicked a ball yet. That's reasonable
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Bluewonder
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That's the beauty of football, you don't have to be the best team in possession to win games. Just look at Mourinho's teams throughout the years, I'm sure they beat the scum with just 29% possession last season.
You're right, but we don't actually play like a Mourinho team.
Bluewonder
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Well, your decided already and he hasn't kicked a ball yet. That's reasonable
I've watched him play for Villa and England, mate.
mosssideblue
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Alongside how many other City playersI've watched him play for Villa and England, mate.
You're right, but we don't actually play like a Mourinho team.
That's irrelevant, my point was that different tactics and styles of play can be just as effective as a possession based game. Hence the reason the variety Delph offers us is a very useful addition.
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I thought even in the preseason Fernando looked the worst player on the pitch way too often.
Totally agree with this. He got away with it because he made a couple of last ditch tackles in the second half against Newcastle in the opening game. I actually thought in the first half of that game he was absolutely diabolical, and the rest of the season just confirmed my initial evaluation.
Delph is a huge leap forwards on Fernando. He's immeasurably better in possession, wants the ball an uses it well and qucikly when he gets it. Out of possession he'd struggle to read the game any worse than Fernando, and he's far far quicker and hungrier to win the ball back. The only possible attribute I think Fernando might be better is defending corners.
Neville Kneville
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We lost possession because we were scared & passed it like shit, not because we can't pass the ball.That's the beauty of football, you don't have to be the best team in possession to win games. Just look at Mourinho's teams throughout the years, I'm sure they beat the scum with just 29% possession last season.
Steviesleftpeg
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Anybody who is suggesting Delph is a bad signing must;
a) Give actual tangible evidence why he is a bad signing. Not just opinion. Stats preferable.
b) Not compare him to Rodwell or Sinclair. The situation is completely different. Rodwell doesn't have a footballing body. He didn't play because he was always injured, not because he was out of favour for two years. Scott Sinclair was a stop-gap who the club signed knowing he would have limited impact. Their careers post-city haven't exactly suggested we were wrong to get rid.
c) Provide the name of another CM who meets the following criteria; Could be bought on wages under £100K p/w, transfer fee less than £10 million, home-grown, left-footed, current international, under the age of 30, has a point to prove, is better than Fernando and has current premier league experience.
It isn't easy.
City have capitalised on the opportunity to sign a good decent player at a very low price. He will get games and he's dependable and tenacious. We missed that in many games last season (particularly Burnley Home and Away), and he will at least replace the energy we have lost with Milner departing. Yaya often can't be arsed to defend, and Fernandinho goes missing in games when the physicality is at it's peak. At the end of the day his job will be to break up play and get the ball 15-20 yards forward to the attackers. He is definitely capable of that. Also thought he performed well in the big occasions for Villa last season, particularly the two games at Wembley (despite the Arsenal scoreline).
I think City's scouting team have done well on this one and if anything it is surprising other teams in the top 6 (where he may have even got more games) were not sniffing about the deal.
a) Give actual tangible evidence why he is a bad signing. Not just opinion. Stats preferable.
b) Not compare him to Rodwell or Sinclair. The situation is completely different. Rodwell doesn't have a footballing body. He didn't play because he was always injured, not because he was out of favour for two years. Scott Sinclair was a stop-gap who the club signed knowing he would have limited impact. Their careers post-city haven't exactly suggested we were wrong to get rid.
c) Provide the name of another CM who meets the following criteria; Could be bought on wages under £100K p/w, transfer fee less than £10 million, home-grown, left-footed, current international, under the age of 30, has a point to prove, is better than Fernando and has current premier league experience.
It isn't easy.
City have capitalised on the opportunity to sign a good decent player at a very low price. He will get games and he's dependable and tenacious. We missed that in many games last season (particularly Burnley Home and Away), and he will at least replace the energy we have lost with Milner departing. Yaya often can't be arsed to defend, and Fernandinho goes missing in games when the physicality is at it's peak. At the end of the day his job will be to break up play and get the ball 15-20 yards forward to the attackers. He is definitely capable of that. Also thought he performed well in the big occasions for Villa last season, particularly the two games at Wembley (despite the Arsenal scoreline).
I think City's scouting team have done well on this one and if anything it is surprising other teams in the top 6 (where he may have even got more games) were not sniffing about the deal.
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