FAO maineman, newcrossblue and mat

Nice to see Arthur having a go back in the Guardian today.

For years people have said Satan's whore was right. Now the price of gas and oil shows that closing the pits was economic suicide.

Our time will come again.
 
newcrossblue said:
Nice to see Arthur having a go back in the Guardian today.

For years people have said Satan's whore was right. Now the price of gas and oil shows that closing the pits was economic suicide.

Our time will come again.
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It's a shame he cocked up his ballot.

He's now being proven right,
 
Unions are great in theory but when people are pushed the self interest kicks to the fore,especially nowadays. Too many people only see the blinkered picture and whats in their own little bubble. Scargill wasn't/isn't the answer, only when the scargill thatcher characters meet in the middle will sense be found.(sorry for the t word).
 
Scargill was always right. The argument at the time was we could buy (subsidised) German coal cheaper than digging our own....

It totally ignored the financial cost of putting whole communities on benefits and the non-financial costs to those people who's lives were destroyed. All done in the interests of experimental social engineering.

The problem was the way Scargill tried to put across the message. No post-70s government was going to listen.
 
BlackSheep said:
Scargill was always right. The argument at the time was we could buy (subsidised) German coal cheaper than digging our own....

It totally ignored the financial cost of putting whole communities on benefits and the non-financial costs to those people who's lives were destroyed. All done in the interests of experimental social engineering.

The problem was the way Scargill tried to put across the message. No post-70s government was going to listen.
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Agreed, but for some reason the majority of miners loved him. If there'd been a different leader of the union who'd been more open to modernisation and who'd got the British public on his side the miners would have won.
Scargill was far too aggressive and confrontational and thought he could bring Thatcher down. What the public saw was another miners leader trying to hold the country to ransom
 
The reason Scargill was as he was (and why the mine workers elected him) is that his style of union leadership had been very successful for the preceding 25 years.

Then came the T lady...
 
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