FC United - Oral Hearing - judge rejects appeal (p 82)

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Re: FC United - Judicial Review day 2 (pg 61)

I just don't get how any so called united fan shows the fc traitors any respect or attention at all, other than hope they fail. These people turned their back on their own club and hope to prosper as a result.

Why would any supporter of man united want anything other than absolute failure for this band of traitors, your club is for life.
 
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From the men ,Like the FC fans didn't want the glazers, the locals don't want FC on their doorstep.z is this too hard to understand.rebels? More like bullies using the establishment, which is supposed to be everything they are against. HYPOCRITES.
 
Re: FC United - Judicial Review today (pg 60)

underthemoonlight said:
The Future's Blue said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
1.6m FCUM community shares
300,000 FCUM development fund
555,000 Manchester City Council
750,000 Sport England
500,000 Football Foundation Stadia Improvement fund (how do you improve a stadium that is yet to be built??!!)
150,000 Football Foundation Community Facilities fund
300,000 other funds and confidentially identified funds
Up to 500,000 (loan) Manchester city council if needed.
Thanks mate. So 1.9 mil from investors and donations and the rest from outside sources, mainly tax payers money.

I think I might try this myself, might make a few quid out of it.

Really?

I,m surprised our two friends haven't posted the latest story on here yet!! maybe there a little embarrassed. it really is clutching at straws.

FC United’s new stadium could be used by the club to ground-share with another professional team, opponents of the plan have claimed.

A judicial review into the application for the 5,000-capacity ground in Moston heard that the club has agreed with the council that no more than 50 games a season will be played.

But local opponents say planning reports were based on just 30 matches a year.

And they claim the extra capacity opens the door to FC United inviting another professional club in to the ground.

Barristers for FC United told the court that local side Moston Juniors would be invited to use the ground for big games, and residents ‘wouldn’t even notice’.

But Hugh Richards, representing the Residents United Residents Association, said: "The club is not prevented by any planning regulations to saying to another club – for example Bury – ‘come and play at our stadium’ and that is what concerns residents.

"There has been no noise report carried out that has said whether or not having 50 games at this stadium is acceptable."

FC United currently play 21 home games a season as a Northern Premier League side. If the club was drawn at home in every round of the three cup competitions they are eligible to enter, they would host 43 matches.

Sasha White, representing the club, said: "The reason we’ve agreed to a limit of 50 is so that Moston Juniors can be allowed to use the stadium pitch.

"One can reasonably forsee that unless Moston Juniors welcome a guest appearance from Messi or Ronaldo they will draw nowhere near enough of a crowd to make noise."

The court also heard the project could yet collapse if delays forced the Football Foundation and Sport England to withdraw £1.4 million funding. In total the development is set to cost £5.3m with £1.725m coming from donations by club members.

The hearing, at Manchester Civil Justice Centre, came after residents claimed the decision to grant planning permission was illegal as proper impact assessments were not carried out.

Richard Drabble QC, representing the council, told the court that following an initial ‘screening process’ the assessments were not required by law.

He said: "These impacts were of limited magnitude, of limited complexity, were confined to a local area, were entirely predictable and could be mitigated.

"The actions taken were for the judgement of the planning authority and wholly consistent with guidelines from the Court of Appeal."

A decision is expected early next year.

Lets say FCUM play 30 games at home in a year.

That leaves 20 potential other games that do not require additional permission to take place.

FCUM's response to this is "Moston Juniors won't bring a crowd worthy of the name".

That's very true, but answer me this. Where does it say the other 20 games MUST be played by Moston Juniors? It doesn't. The assumption/steer FCUM are giving is that Moston Juniors will be the team that, potentially, could use the pitch on these 20 occasions, but that's not legally written into any agreement.

Stockport ground shared with Sale.

Watford ground share with Saracens.

Sale now ground share, I believe, with Salford City Reds.

There is nothing to prevent FCUM agreeing a groundshare with another club, as they already have "permission" to stage 50 games a season.

That's the point being made here. If the only defence given is "well Moston Juniors will most likely be that team" then that isn't a defence. "Most likely" is not a guarantee. "Most likely" isn't worth the paper it is written on.

Plus, as previously mentioned, this was just one of many points/issues raised.
 
Re: FC United - Judicial Review day 2 (pg 61)

"FC United currently play 21 home games a season as a Northern Premier League side. If the club was drawn at home in every round of the three cup competitions they are eligible to enter, they would host 43 matches."

You have to plan ahead hence the 50 game plan, plus a few pre-season friendlies and a couple of junior games/school finals. Where does the other league team fit in??<br /><br />-- Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:37 am --<br /><br />Oh forgot cup replays.
 
Re: FC United - Judicial Review day 2 (pg 61)

underthemoonlight said:
"FC United currently play 21 home games a season as a Northern Premier League side. If the club was drawn at home in every round of the three cup competitions they are eligible to enter, they would host 43 matches."

You have to plan ahead hence the 50 game plan, plus a few pre-season friendlies and a couple of junior games/school finals. Where does the other league team fit in??

-- Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:37 am --

Oh forgot cup replays.

You don't plan for the extremely unlikely possibility of having 22 home cup games / replays a season. You know that and I know that.

I personally do not believe another pro clubs' 1st team would ground share, but I am open minded to believe that some other plan yet to be announced is in the pipeline. The club (understandably) wants to maximise the full potential of raising capital from the venture and will consider (in my humble opinion) all options available to them.
 
Re: FC United - Judicial Review day 2 (pg 61)

Soccer Club United of Manchester.
 
Re: FC United - Judicial Review day 2 (pg 61)

Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Happy Christmas to all the FC United fans who read Blue Moon :)
So nice that you visit here so regularly :)


And the same to all the blue noses that keep this topic alive ;-)

Hit the link

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Re: FC United - Judicial Review day 2 (pg 61)

underthemoonlight said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Happy Christmas to all the FC United fans who read Blue Moon :)
So nice that you visit here so regularly :)


And the same to all the blue noses that keep this topic alive ;-)

Hit the link

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dont get you lot moonlight if i'm honest. you support utd, but you dont like the owner (go glazer go) so you form a break away club and called it fc utd. but then your fans are all still fans of the big daddy and follow utd. and your attendances suffer when utd are at home. so who and what the fuck are you? i find it all cringeville if i'm honest! like them lads a few yrs ago that put a teams shares on line so people could have a voice!

have never met an fc fan so i'm not sure they exist but the best of luck with your little strop.
 
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