FC United thread

They appear to reached the bottom.... had the previous board / general manager still been in charge they'd have gone under, such was their incompetence. There were around 5 friends of the General Manager, er I mean five employees of the club on around 30K each plus the GM on 35K. Doesn't take a genius to work out the way that was going...... the one thing I can't understand is how fans couldn't add up the maths too - think they were all just swept under the euphoria of getting into their own ground to look what was going on behind their backs (as an awful lot of it was behind members backs, ignore all the 'one member one vote' and 'clear and transparent' nonsense)

The new CEO has come in and he is on around 50K but without the other hangers on that is around 130K saving a year at a stroke.
They are waiting for the results of one, maybe two big funding applications - if they get the nod on those, that will set them up for a couple of years. If they don't get the nod then they are potentially in shit street. Their survival is very much dependent on the results of these bids for funding.
If they can get more revenue from non playing activities then that will be a bonus as the function room has been hugely over estimated in terms of bringing in a return. They had a full time bar manager on a hefty wage and the place was barely open outside of match day (and then he was allegedly helping himself to the till too!).

I saw a comment on a messageboard the other week that cracked me up, one of them (talking about how they can get more business into the function room) saying ''we are right next to the biggest cemetery in North Manchester - they should be lining up to come in here after the funeral...''
How many of you reading this have ever been to a funeral and the place you go to afterwards is the nearest venue to the crem / cemetery? You either go back to the house of a relative or your local boozer, but this clown feels the first thing anyone in North Manchester should think of after a loved one has died, is to book into Pallet Park!

The final problem they have is the support is dwindling / losing heart from a dire season on the pitch along with the off field issues too, splitting fans into cliques depending on if they are pro / anti the old / new regime. The old regime caused a lot of damage financially and lost a lot of goodwill among fans, many of whom gave up hard earned cash and put it into investment schemes (that they might not see again) and volunteered many hours of unpaid work - all as certain other people lined their own pockets whilst performing badly at whatever task they were paid to do and running the club into the ground at the same time.

Good post.Seems unfair they have grants coming at them from all angles whereas a team like Darlington cant even get in the play offs due to lack of funds.
 
If you think FCSCUM are odious twats wait until you experience Salford City.

Went on Saturday to watch Darlington FC who unfortunately got beat 5-1.

I went about 4 years ago before twats of 92 involvement and I think there was about 200 of them at most.Played in Amber,good club.

Now play in Red and the average is up to around 1350 and I think most are only there to be on TV on that wank documentary.Holding up signs for most of the game to the cameras.

Absolute circus.
 
If you think FCSCUM are odious twats wait until you experience Salford City.

Went on Saturday to watch Darlington FC who unfortunately got beat 5-1.

I went about 4 years ago before twats of 92 involvement and I think there was about 200 of them at most.Played in Amber,good club.

Now play in Red and the average is up to around 1350 and I think most are only there to be on TV on that wank documentary.Holding up signs for most of the game to the cameras.

Absolute circus.
Heard Darlington missed out on the play offs as their ground not upto Conference standards
Has it changed so much since their league games
 
It's so easy to criticise FC United and Salford City because of their rag influences etc etc but at the end of the day were all football fans and the people who watch these teams are there because they are fed up of being ripped off for years and treated like shit by the team they supported. The reason fans are watching them mirrors some of our complaints over the past couple of years with modern day football. Watch this space I reckon there will be more of these clubs popping up. If FC United were FC Newcastle or FC Forest/Rangers/(insert any other club with bad owners) would we be as critical???
 
It's so easy to criticise FC United and Salford City because of their rag influences etc etc but at the end of the day were all football fans and the people who watch these teams are there because they are fed up of being ripped off for years and treated like shit by the team they supported. The reason fans are watching them mirrors some of our complaints over the past couple of years with modern day football. Watch this space I reckon there will be more of these clubs popping up. If FC United were FC Newcastle or FC Forest/Rangers/(insert any other club with bad owners) would we be as critical???
Did a mate ask you to post that? and did you know what was in the post before you did it?
 
It's so easy to criticise FC United and Salford City because of their rag influences etc etc but at the end of the day were all football fans and the people who watch these teams are there because they are fed up of being ripped off for years and treated like shit by the team they supported. The reason fans are watching them mirrors some of our complaints over the past couple of years with modern day football. Watch this space I reckon there will be more of these clubs popping up. If FC United were FC Newcastle or FC Forest/Rangers/(insert any other club with bad owners) would we be as critical???


yes if they were still piggybacking on the original club, taking money from the council, paying their staff wages while defaulting on repayments to the council etc etc etc
 
Heard Darlington missed out on the play offs as their ground not upto Conference standards
Has it changed so much since their league games

Yes finished in the play offs but not allowed to compete due to the new ground not being up to scratch.

The ground City played at in 98 was Feethams but the club left there to play at the 25k capacity Reynolds Arena in Darlington shortly after.

Since 2012 and their demotion to level 9 for again entering administration Darlo have been playing at Bishop Auckland (12 miles away)but have fought their way up the leagues as a fan owned club.Now in Conference North.

During this time the fans have raised money to improve facilities at Darlington Rugby Club where they moved in as renters on Boxing Day 2016.However,a massive cock up was made on ground regs hence ground not up to standard,only come to light in the past couple of weeks.
 
It's so easy to criticise FC United and Salford City because of their rag influences etc etc but at the end of the day were all football fans and the people who watch these teams are there because they are fed up of being ripped off for years and treated like shit by the team they supported. The reason fans are watching them mirrors some of our complaints over the past couple of years with modern day football. Watch this space I reckon there will be more of these clubs popping up. If FC United were FC Newcastle or FC Forest/Rangers/(insert any other club with bad owners) would we be as critical???

I think there are some good fans left at FCSCUM now but at the start they had a lot of turds that latched on to the winning team and a piss up.Cant take them seriously until they stop singing songs about City,just MUFC Lite until then.

Salford is just a circus as I said and have fans turning up for the cameras or to catch a glimpse of a twat of 92.

I have followed City and Darlo all my life(Manc born)and understand the attraction of non league,you feel part of it all,but these 2 clubs are different to the rest.
 
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yes if they were still piggybacking on the original club, taking money from the council, paying their staff wages while defaulting on repayments to the council etc etc etc

Not to mention behaving like knuckle draggers at countless away games.
 
I have a lot of time for the fan ownership / co-op model of running a club. However it has to be decent a genuine people behind it, fcum is off the scum and for the scum. They were always destined to ruin themselves and dent the reputation of those that would try to help them along the way. I would like to get involved with a decent supporter owned club but there are none in Manchester that I know of.
 
It's so easy to criticise FC United and Salford City because of their rag influences etc etc
Watch this space I reckon there will be more of these clubs popping up. If FC United were FC Newcastle or FC Forest/Rangers/(insert any other club with bad owners) would we be as critical???
Clubs that have gone down this root and formed an "FC" team, on the whole are fans of clubs who have had their club taken away from them / run down and asset stripped:
Wimbledon, Chester, Halifax, Portsmouth, Darlington.
Fans of these clubs receive a lot of respect from fellow fans for their efforts in keeping the original club alive and for keeping a team going in their town.
Then you have the Moston Rag Socks. Fans of the biggest club in the country at the time, who didn't like the new owner of the club. Like many, many fans of many, many clubs.
Of course the Glazer's purchase was extremely controversial and I'd be fuming if I supported a club in healthy profit that over night was £600m in debt.
But the club were still there operating. In fact the first 3 or 4 years they continued to win championships and champions league too.
But what happened at FC United is a few chancers saw an opportunity to make a name and a nice niche for themselves - and ultimately 10 years down the line, a career out of it at fans expense (or even tax payers expense!)
They ran the club based on their own political ideology and agendas and ridiculously got away with receiving millions (literally) of tax payers money via various funding sources along the way. They craved the attention received on how they would do things "differently" and "on our terms" - yet the higher up they went, the more they had to toe the line and fall in with the rest and shut up. In the early days, they had no chance of being on Sky in an FA Cup tie when never getting past the 2nd or 3rd preliminary - so they could boast all they wanted about wanting to "destroy Glazer and Sky..." in songs, as they were never going to get chosen! Its like me saying i will never accept a Knighthood... all safe in the knowledge i will never be asked. Yet as soon as they got higher and reached the point where a live game WAS booked, all the posturing and declarations went out the window and along with it a lot of credibility. As has happened 3 times now, where they have been told "these are the rules turn up and play and here is your cheque. We are not interested in your 'principles".
They are not a club born from the ashes of the old club
They are a new mini me club, from same back to front the name, colours, songs and whole image all taken and trading off their 'old club' that still carries on season by season and will continue to do so for a long time. Heck, many fans still go to 'Big United' as well as the Moston Rag Socks!
They were set up by agenda setting, point scoring attention seekers. There are genuine fans around who truly believed the club was the utopian dream and way forward for all clubs. Sadly their trust was misplaced and they have been ripped off way more than the Glazer's have ripped rags off. At least the Glazer's never pretended to be fans or claimed to have fans interest at heart....
 
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Clubs that have gone down this root and formed an "FC" team, on the whole are fans of clubs who have had their club taken away from them / run down and asset stripped:
Wimbledon, Chester, Halifax, Portsmouth, Darlington.
Fans of these clubs receive a lot of respect from fellow fans for their efforts in keeping the original club alive and for keeping a team going in their town.
Then you have the Moston Rag Socks. Fans of the biggest club in the country at the time, who didn't like the new owner of the club. Like many, many fans of many, many clubs.
Of course the Glazer's purchase was extremely controversial and I'd be fuming if I supported a club in healthy profit that over night was £600m in debt.
But the club were still there operating. In fact the first 3 or 4 years they continued to win championships and champions league too.
But what happened at FC United is a few chancers saw an opportunity to make a name and a nice niche for themselves - and ultimately 10 years down the line, a career out of it at fans expense (or even tax payers expense!)
They ran the club based on their own political ideology and agendas and ridiculously got away with receiving millions (literally) of tax payers money via various funding sources along the way. They craved the attention received on how they would do things "differently" and "on our terms" - yet the higher up they went, the more they had to toe the line and fall in with the rest and shut up. In the early days, they had no chance of being on Sky in an FA Cup tie when never getting past the 2nd or 3rd preliminary - so they could boast all they wanted about wanting to "destroy Glazer and Sky..." in songs, as they were never going to get chosen! Its like me saying i will never accept a Knighthood... all safe in the knowledge i will never be asked. Yet as soon as they got higher and reached the point where a live game WAS booked, all the posturing and declarations went out the window and along with it a lot of credibility. As has happened 3 times now, where they have been told "these are the rules turn up and play and here is your cheque. We are not interested in your 'principles".
They are not a club born from the ashes of the old club
They are a new mini me club, from same back to front the name, colours, songs and whole image all taken and trading off their 'old club' that still carries on season by season and will continue to do so for a long time. Heck, many fans still go to 'Big United' as well as the Moston Rag Socks!
They were set up by agenda setting, point scoring attention seekers. There are genuine fans around who truly believed the club was the utopian dream and way forward for all clubs. Sadly their trust was misplaced and they have been ripped off way more than the Glazer's have ripped rags off. At least the Glazer's never pretended to be fans or claimed to have fans interest at heart....
SPOILER ALERT!!!
 
Thought these three supported the rags?



One week he hates FC utd next week he's their on stage...

 

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