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[MillionMilesAway]

Your faith in the sagacity of our persecutors is touching ;)

More likely than Mullock, Lee, Samuel, Ziegler, and the club all overlooking it.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

In the blog it says this

9. On 15 May 2019, the Investigatory Chamber issued the Referral Decision (“Referral Decision”). This was the eve of the 5 year anniversary of the 2014 Settlement Agreement. It is unlikely, in my view, this was co-incidental (cf Article 37[7] of UEFA’s Procedural Rules governing the UEFA CFCB).

As I read it, if 15 May is the eve, then he doesn't believe that 16th was outside the period.

Also, from the UEFA CFCB Procedural Rules, does the last point below mean 20th Dec - 5th Jan is not included in the time limit? I’m not clear on what it means. Or does it just mean that should the deadline fall in that period, you effectively have an extension due to Christmas and new year? Not sure.

Article 37 – Statute of limitations

Prosecution is barred after five years for all breaches of the UEFA Club Licensing and
Financial Fair Play Regulations.

Article 38 – Time limits

1 A time limit begins on the date from which the decision is notified or published, whichever is the earlier. It is considered to have been observed if acted upon by 24.00 CET (Central European Time) on the deadline date. Official holidays and non-working days are included in the calculation of time limits. When a deadline expires on a Saturday, Sunday or public holiday in the Swiss canton of Vaud, where UEFA's headquarters are located, it is carried forward to the next working day.

2 On receipt of a reasoned, written request, the CFCB chief investigator or CFCB chairman may extend a time limit.

3 Time limits are interrupted from 20 December to 5 January inclusive.

 

[George Hannah]

You need to be a subscriber of 93:20
https://ninetythreetwenty.com/podcasts/ffp-part-deux-cas-ruling-special/

Other than that most of the info is in the Seeing the Wood For the FFPs thread

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/...2-part-analysis-semi-long-reads.344747/unread

Thanks - ironic that first UEFA licensing doc had Clattenburg on the cover !

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Also, from the UEFA CFCB Procedural Rules, does the last point below mean 20th Dec - 5th Jan is not included in the time limit? I’m not clear on what it means.

Article 37 – Statute of limitations

Prosecution is barred after five years for all breaches of the UEFA Club Licensing and
Financial Fair Play Regulations.

Article 38 – Time limits

1 A time limit begins on the date from which the decision is notified or published, whichever is the earlier. It is considered to have been observed if acted upon by 24.00 CET (Central European Time) on the deadline date. Official holidays and non-working days are included in the calculation of time limits. When a deadline expires on a Saturday, Sunday or public holiday in the Swiss canton of Vaud, where UEFA's headquarters are located, it is carried forward to the next working day.

2 On receipt of a reasoned, written request, the CFCB chief investigator or CFCB chairman may extend a time limit.

3 Time limits are interrupted from 20 December to 5 January inclusive.

I think it just means "we're shut and all depositions will be moved to the next day we're open", as per the public holiday line.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

I think it just means "we're shut and all depositions will be moved to the next day we're open", as per the public holiday line.

Yeah probably. Isn’t it mad that we play Real Madrid tonight but the main thing we have to talk about is articles within regulations and legal matters. Football is not about football for us!

 

[George Hannah]

I think it just means "we're shut and all depositions will be moved to the next day we're open", as per the public holiday line.

remember MMA - nobody is infallible except the Pope.

 

[hello]

Shouldn't 4 & 3 be swapped if those dates are correct 3rd is before 5th or 8th

 

[George Hannah]

Shouldn't 4 & 3 be swapped if those dates are correct 3rd is before 5th or 8th

the winner!!!!! Cigar in the post ;)

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Yeah probably. Isn’t it mad that we play Real Madrid tonight but the main thing we have to talk about is articles within regulations and legal matters. Football is not about football for us!

Indeed. That probably says something, I reckon tonight's result is anybody's guess - could go any way.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

it does help, I think the thread will turn into a discussion though. But it would be good to have a factual thread because I stopped believing anything in the other threads.

Agree - the Ops post is great. I don't bother with the mega thread as its 99% hysteria and moaning and only 1% useful and informative.

Maybe keep this one for factual updates - keep it locked otherwise.