Football is Fixed-City

[Thaksinssoldier]

So both managers AND players in both teams would have to be complicit.

Not neccessarily. Both managers in a situation like this. Players, perhaps one or two. Just rotate a bit from your strongest team, change tactics from the norm(for example tell a slow player to go man against a pacy player).

I'm not saying it happened. Luck and madness are a part of football. But if they have some evidence of their claim, and then you look at all of the above...

 

[blueparrot]

I wish I had some of the closed minded thinking on this thread.

Corruption in football is endemic yet people are blind to think high profile games couldn't be fixed. Look at the last World cup.

I don't doubt there is corruption, but at this level to influence the result of a whole game, would be extremely expensive needing to bribe players on both sides, and carry a huge risk of exposure from one whistle blower. Aspects of a game controlled by one person ie missed penalties,penalties conceded , own goals are very easily fixed. but results are much harder at that level.

 

[Deleted member 13905]

perhaps, but then there's the substitution at 3-2 where our manager claimed he didnt think we needed a 4th goal.

i'm more inclined to believe that was down to pellegrini's & his coaching staff's incompetence, rather than him being bent.
to even begin to think that guardiola was/is involved in match fixing is plainly ludicrous.

it also, to me, seems extremely far-fetched that a club, or both clubs, of such stature would be involved in fixing games.
the ramifications if found out would be ruinous to the club and, as such, it's unthinkable that at any high-level employee would, or could, be involved.

betting patterns are highly monitored and analysed. betting companies won't cough up if it looks dodgy.
the only possible fix i can think of, bearing in mind it couldn't be too obscure a bet if large amounts were to be wagered, is:
"city to be behind at half-time"
something one rogue defender (or keeper) could have had a huge say in by ensuring the opposition got a couple.

 

[avoidconfusion]

I don't understand this. What exactly about that match was supposed to be fixed? That we won? That we won 3-2?

 

[Jazzman]

Given that both teams already had qualified to the knockout rounds before the game in question, the only motivation for fixing would be for money. It seems highly unlikely to me that 2 of the richest clubs in the world playing some of highest paid footballers in the world would be bribed into agreeing to a certain result of the game. I just don't see it.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

I don't understand this. What exactly about that match was supposed to be fixed? That we won? That we won 3-2?

We were 2 down and getting pummelled. Maybe the turnaround which was quite astonishing

 

[aguero93:20]

Given that both teams already had qualified to the knockout rounds before the game in question, the only motivation for fixing would be for money. It seems highly unlikely to me that 2 of the richest clubs in the world playing some of highest paid footballers in the world would be bribed into agreeing to a certain result of the game. I just don't see it.

You're talking about 2 clubs with a net value of around €4.5bn owned by interests worth hundreds of billions and some dodgy betting syndicates from the far east have managed not only to come up with a bribe big enough to sway the owners of these clubs but also enough of the playing staff to ensure the desired result but have also managed to cover said bribes in increased profit margins.

The football betting industry is worth around €500bn per year and suspicious betting is estimated (by highly trained professionals, both investigators and actuaries, not some conspiracy theorists running a blog in their spare time) to be worth around 1% or €5bn of that.

That wouldn't even cover the bribe needed to pull something on this scale off. Large scale corruption exists, but not in a cash in hand format at that scale.

 

[aguero93:20]

We were 2 down and getting pummelled. Maybe the turnaround which was quite astonishing

It's basically a bunch of bitter ****s that won't give us the credit for being good enough to beat Munich by 3 goals in 80 minutes when they weren't at their best.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Given that both teams already had qualified to the knockout rounds before the game in question, the only motivation for fixing would be for money. It seems highly unlikely to me that 2 of the richest clubs in the world playing some of highest paid footballers in the world would be bribed into agreeing to a certain result of the game. I just don't see it.

You do realise that many of these millionaire footballers are gambling heavily?

Didi Hamann recently admitted to losing £300k in one night alone. One very well known player has carried on playing when he should have been easily able to retire but can't afford to and has remortgaged his house twice to pay off gambling debts.

Many years ago I knew of one former international who owed an amount equivalent to a year's salary or more to one casino alone. And I know of another current international whose club are aware of a significant gambling issue and believe that he may be compromised because of that.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

You do realise that many of these millionaire footballers are gambling heavily?

Didi Hamann recently admitted to losing £300k in one night alone. One very well known player has carried on playing when he should have been easily able to retire but can't afford to and has remortgaged his house twice to pay off gambling debts.

Many years ago I knew of one former international who owed an amount equivalent to a year's salary or more to one casino alone. And I know of another current international whose club are aware of a significant gambling issue and believe that he may be compromised because of that.

And a certain white haired knobjockey of a Cockney who had to take virtually unpaid employment in the North East of England because the chairman cleared his hefty gambling debts