Football Leaks/Der Spiegel articles

lonestay said:
I suppose the next big thing in this story is if eufa react and decide to "investigate". I don't think they will though I think in reality they would like this to just fade away , if they do decide to do something I think that's when city lawyer up and go for the jugular in court . Of course this could play out well for the euro super league if City took on
Eufa and won any case, that would effectively end eufa as a governing body making a breakaway euro league easier to bring in, or if eufa won the case it would shackle City, and the other clubs benefit from that .
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UEFA could do a token investigation just to please the bitters? (rags!) And find nothing to see here, now move along..
 
I think this situation with the 'leaks' is crystal clear now. All the fuss is about future global club tournament that will eventually replace the CL.
There are 2 confronted groups:

'Group A' - the old cartel currently ruling European club football. Includes Agnelli, Rummenigge, Tebas etc.
This group wants either to mantain status quo or create the 'Superleague'.

'Group B' - some unknown investors from USA, China and Arab world proposing 'World club championship' under FIFA's wing. As I assume Man City owners belong to this group.
So, I have good news guys: we have FIFA president Infantino on our side. It's not really surprising that both City and him are under PR attack.

It's difficult to predict the outcome of this battle not even knowing our allies, but I guess the best indicator will be Infantino's success (or failure) with the CWC implementation.


Edit: Infantino is already calling the shots, supporting my theory. Good boy:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/07/fifa-ban-super-league-players-from-world-cup-euros

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so we're is this email that's supposedly caused all this shit because I ain't seen a single thing that says we have done anything fucking wrong.
 
Hi guys, I’ve kept up with this thread last few days, however not had a chance today and circa 50 pages that I can’t face trawling through. Although I’m pretty sure the answer is “absolutely fuck all”, can anyone please give me a little summary of today’s revelations and any subsequent statements etc?

Thanks in advance.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Hi guys, I’ve kept up with this thread last few days, however not had a chance today and circa 50 pages that I can’t face trawling through. Although I’m pretty sure the answer is “absolutely fuck all”, can anyone please give me a little summary of today’s revelations and any subsequent statements etc?

Thanks in advance.
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Even less than fuck all.
 
Chris in London said:
It was intentional in the sense that UEFA meant to put in place the regulation that they actually put in place. They didn’t do it by accident. My guess is that the possibility someone might try to circumvent FFP this way didn’t occur to them. I’d say it was a loophole. Normally I’d say taking advantage of a loophole is morally dubious, but given that the entire raisin d’etre of FFP is to fuck us over in favour of the G14 cartel, on this occasion I don’t see any problem with taking advantage of what the regulations don’t say.

Bayern’s issues are different. Hoeness and Ruminigge broke the law of Germany. They are criminals, convicted of offences of dishonesty, and punished according to German law. UEFA regulations are nothing more than the rules of a game. And we didn’t breach those rules.
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On the pitch, and (ever more so) off the pitch, the game of football is about small margins. The club is presented with a competition framework by its governing body. the "Game" is to use that framework to the very best advantage you can, to get the maximum out of even the smallest detail you can, to increase your chances of winning the "game".
I see no difference in working the smallest details on the pitch or off the pitch. Our Business unit obviously are as sharp off the field as the players are on the field. What is the difference with City (off-pitch) wringing the last ounce of juice out of the FFP framework or the like of Ferguson (on-pitch) in his hay day wringing the last seconds of playing time by shouting at the ref and tapping his watch?
Both are pushing those very fine margins to the limits.

It is my opinion that if you look at on-pitch and off-pitch as different sides of the same game coin, you can't seriously expect organisations who trade in the millions/billions to not want to work those margins. In fact i would argue not doing so would be negligent.
The onus thus is on the body providing the framework (In this case UEFA) to be competent and up to the task in hand and be at a level commensurate with the money, resources and stakes at play in the game they control. Not doing so is, imho, also negligent .

I think all of this stuff looks very, very bad on UEFA. They are negligent in their attempts to run the game at this high level. Their negligence is not only damaging City, but, given the shit flying around the football world at the moment, it is damaging to the sport.

No wonder City fans Boo the incompetent clowns.
Which all points to a fundamental and much bigger problem with this mess.

Is it the case that UEFA are utterly incompetent in running European football? If so, should the sport not recognise that and as a united community, look to UEFA to get with the scope, scale, and size of the modern game and set in motion genuine internal reform and improvement?

If the governing body are run by clowns, it is hardly surprising that they run the game like a circus.
 
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