We were never going to pass FFP but, had UEFA not changed a key rule, we might have avoided sanctions. Had we done that and UEFA subsequently found out that we'd done things that would have disqualified us from using that rule had they known, then we might well be in trouble. But, ironically, changing it (whether intentionally or otherwise) caused us to be punished.
Since then they've changed the rules on owner investment, which was almost certainly their weak point legally and could well have been challenged under EU competition rules. We've also become profitable and self-sustaining mainly due to big increases in media income. Under those circumstances I find it difficult to believe that UEFA will re-open an old case, which could easily trigger a court challenge, merely because we may have failed by a bit more than we did fail by.
Not neccasarily (sp) This is civil case as opposed to criminal. What often happens is lawyers sit down and agree a fee and there is a legal line put in it which basically says it is done without admitting anything. Further I am sure they would stick a line in to cover any future so called ne evidence, any decent lawyer would, If they try re -investigating us you have to assume our lawyers will simply remind them of the agreement reached before.
Mate. Everybody had one post at some point. You're just as welcome on here as the person with 100,000 posts, the board owner, the moderators, and all the other members.You could try reading them?
Is it not fair for me to ask questions about something I do not know the answers to?
I would love to be as confident as other people on this and by asking questions I hope to find out but you would rather act like an idiot and make me feel bad for asking a question.
We'll soon find out. According to Sky it looks like UEFA may well open the 2014 case now. I can't help think we're going to get shafted here if that's the case. Can't see them saying they will revisit it and act on it if they did not feel they had the remit to do so.
You've understood correctly about the media uproar, unless these allegations relate to our post-settlement accounting. We might be looking at £10/20m, when we failed by over £75m.Thank you for replying.
In that case the whole media uproar about the sponsorships potentially being paid indirectly by Mansour doesn't really have any case to answer for or have I misunderstood that bit?
It seems the whole negative argument is based around that but does that even break their rules?
Darren Lewis.....i remember him years back openly laughing at City,deriding us,treating us with contempt. This is how the bitter media twunts continue to make their money.makes me feel sick.Get a proper job you southern wanker.Michael Calvin - enough said! This is the c*nt who was responsible for this utterly despicable piece some years back. He's done nothing but slag our owner off since day one, yet incredibly in this article he claims he should've invested in FC Scum instead:
Yea, think you are right. And it’s not just the sponsorships, it’s the alleged structuring of manager payments (and maybe others) to keep it off the books.We'll soon find out. According to Sky it looks like UEFA may well open the 2014 case now. I can't help think we're going to get shafted here if that's the case. Can't see them saying they will revisit it and act on it if they did not feel they had the remit to do so.
I'm not so sure it will be investigated. We don't know for sure what City and UEFA agreed last time round. UEFA's reference to confidentiality last week and their talk of case-by-case in latest pronouncement continues to give me hope that City have (confidential) agreement in writing to absolutely no retrospective action.
I also think UEFA could struggle to prove anything even if Mansour has funneled "investment" via sponsors: they cannot look beyond those sponsors published financials.
And, if it comes to it, I still believe FFP is anti-competitive and open to legal challenge.
How do you know?? I don’t trust the spineless b********. They don’t care about right and wrong as long as the so-called elite old clubs are kept happy
That UEFA statement was full of ifs, buts and maybes. The media have then spun it as "UEFA say they will investigate".We'll soon find out. According to Sky it looks like UEFA may well open the 2014 case now. I can't help think we're going to get shafted here if that's the case. Can't see them saying they will revisit it and act on it if they did not feel they had the remit to do so.
I always thought that cartels were illegal.
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I hope you're right. I just think the pressure will be piled on to UEFA to do something like never before here, and to be honest the sheer scale (£59m out of £67m) of the purported funnelling is such that I don't see how UEFA could possibly justify not looking at it, and particularly given the narrative adopted by our beloved friends at the media thus far (the ever excellent Messrs Holt and Samuels duly excepted)
Darren Lewis.....i remember him years back openly laughing at City,deriding us,treating us with contempt. This is how the bitter media twunts continue to make their money.makes me feel sick.Get a proper job you southern wanker.
Darren Lewis.....i remember him years back openly laughing at City,deriding us,treating us with contempt. This is how the bitter media twunts continue to make their money.makes me feel sick.Get a proper job you southern wanker.