Forward With Franny

[levets]

certainly a lot of support for franny on this thread, but we never went to the old division 3 under swales.

the sacking of Horton was unjust and the appointment of ball was mind boggling.

my fading memory of lee's tenure was one mediocre signing followed by another.

also the sale of flitcroft at the most pivotal time of the season played a huge part in city going down, and not recovering ever during lee's stay in charge.

the sacking of Horton was unjust and the appointment of ball was mind boggling.
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Horton was always going to get the bullet after backing the wrong horse. He said some snidey things regarding Franny to a certain reporter at the .
Horton was actually a nice endearing guy to be fair... I liked him.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I was a "Forward With Franny" campaigner and I was totally fucking duped by him.

He was another charlatan who thought he could invest a tiny amount of cash and make a mint out of the Sky era.

Problem was he had no people management skills and a cleverer-than-thou attitude which alienated a lot of people at the club and put off a few managers who could have done a job for us.

Let's be absolutely straight here. We had two terrible chairman and that's why our club declined so rapidly.

 

[fathellensbellend]

certainly a lot of support for franny on this thread, but we never went to the old division 3 under swales.

the sacking of Horton was unjust and the appointment of ball was mind boggling.

my fading memory of lee's tenure was one mediocre signing followed by another.

also the sale of flitcroft at the most pivotal time of the season played a huge part in city going down, and not recovering ever during lee's stay in charge.

the sacking of Horton was unjust and the appointment of ball was mind boggling.
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Horton was always going to get the bullet after backing the wrong horse. He said some snidey things regarding Franny to a certain reporter at the .
Horton was actually a nice endearing guy to be fair... I liked him.

Horton, was and is a gentlemen, we played some wonderful football at home during 1994/95, the away form let city down.<br /><br />-- Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:08 pm --<br /><br />

I was a "Forward With Franny" campaigner and I was totally fucking duped by him.

He was another charlatan who thought he could invest a tiny amount of cash and make a mint out of the Sky era.

Problem was he had no people management skills and a cleverer-than-thou attitude which alienated a lot of people at the club and put off a few managers who could have done a job for us.

Let's be absolutely straight here. We had two terrible chairman and that's why our club declined so rapidly.

didn't we come out to the song "things can only get better", if only we had known, I remember reading the papers just before lee took over, we were being linked with players like les Ferdinand, if only we knew what was to follow.

also can people remember the picture in the program of what the revamped maine road was going to look like under lee, I think it was the Southampton programme, much like swales who produced a picture of a revamped maine road, I think with 2 lots of trevor francis roofs.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

certainly a lot of support for franny on this thread, but we never went to the old division 3 under swales.

the sacking of Horton was unjust and the appointment of ball was mind boggling.

my fading memory of lee's tenure was one mediocre signing followed by another.

also the sale of flitcroft at the most pivotal time of the season played a huge part in city going down, and not recovering ever during lee's stay in charge.

the sacking of Horton was unjust and the appointment of ball was mind boggling.
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Horton was always going to get the bullet after backing the wrong horse. He said some snidey things regarding Franny to a certain reporter at the .
Horton was actually a nice endearing guy to be fair... I liked him.

Horton, was and is a gentlemen, we played some wonderful football at home during 1994/95, the away form let city down.

-- Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:08 pm --

I was a "Forward With Franny" campaigner and I was totally fucking duped by him.

He was another charlatan who thought he could invest a tiny amount of cash and make a mint out of the Sky era.

Problem was he had no people management skills and a cleverer-than-thou attitude which alienated a lot of people at the club and put off a few managers who could have done a job for us.

Let's be absolutely straight here. We had two terrible chairman and that's why our club declined so rapidly.

didn't we come out to the song "things can only get better", if only we had known, I remember reading the papers just before lee took over, we were being linked with players like les Ferdinand, if only we knew what was to follow.

also can people remember the picture in the program of what the revamped maine road was going to look like under lee, I think it was the Southampton programme, much like swales who produced a picture of a revamped maine road, I think with 2 lots of trevor francis roofs.

Lee was a bullshitter with a huge ego. He saw football's gravy train on the horizon and wanted a slice. And being back in the public eye would have suited him. Fair play to him for remaining a fan, and for being a fine player, but as a chairman he was hopeless.

 

[paulchapo]

If i remember there was a pull out in a programme about the plans for Maine Road,sixty thousand capacity and looking a bit like Wembley,i was caught up in the excitement thinking we are going places now,how wrong i was until the takeover.

Thinking back to these bad old days i do have to pinch myself as to where we are now and what the future could hold for us.To say we have earnt it putting up with all the utter shite we did is an understatement!

 

[Kazzydeyna]

I was a "Forward With Franny" campaigner and I was totally fucking duped by him.

He was another charlatan who thought he could invest a tiny amount of cash and make a mint out of the Sky era.

Problem was he had no people management skills and a cleverer-than-thou attitude which alienated a lot of people at the club and put off a few managers who could have done a job for us.

Let's be absolutely straight here. We had two terrible chairman and that's why our club declined so rapidly.

I've disagreed with you many many times on Mancini threads so its great to be able to say "100% spot on post".

Lee was as big an egotist as Swales. Maybe bigger.

What did it for me was his courting of the mirror to get himself installed by whipping up the fans, only to give an interview a few years later blaming the city fans for "forcing" him into the chairmanship. If I remember correctly the quote from him was " I never wanted the job".

Great player, utter utter wanker of a man and chairman.

Forza Sheiky.

 

[bluemurray]

Yep, I was there. Outside the Main Stand when Swales wouldn't come out.
We were singing 'Put your Whisky down and face the lads!'

Oh and 'Sack the Board' of course!

"We're shit and we're sick of it"?

Another classic from the Hymnal of Discontented mid-90's City fans! I remember being really excited at the QPR home match, thinking there had been some sort of Palace coup! Nothing had happened of course and nothing would until February the following year! Swales OUT!

 

[NorCalBlue]

I was a "Forward With Franny" campaigner and I was totally fucking duped by him.

He was another charlatan who thought he could invest a tiny amount of cash and make a mint out of the Sky era.

Problem was he had no people management skills and a cleverer-than-thou attitude which alienated a lot of people at the club and put off a few managers who could have done a job for us.

Let's be absolutely straight here. We had two terrible chairman and that's why our club declined so rapidly.

It's a good thing there's no one like that on here...

 

[paulchapo]

I remember singing,''You've ruined City and England'' when Swales was appointed to the England board.

 

[NICKS BACK]

Charlatan? May be a bit strong, I remember he was certainly a shrewd Businessman who made his money away from Football, he never went down the line of living off his name either, unlike so many others I could mention.

Franny Lee failing was a massive disappointment, looking back on it, he is probably still wondering how it went so pear shaped.

He needed someone he could trust, and Alan Ball always appeared to have the same fire in his belly, as he did as a player.

Pulling Portsmouth in to the Old 1st Division was no mean feat in those days.

Truthfully seemed a team made in Heaven IMO, everything else apart from Kinkladze seemed incredibly Bizarre in hidsight.


However at the time IN Franny we Trust?

 

[lancs blue]

certainly a lot of support for franny on this thread, but we never went to the old division 3 under swales.

the sacking of Horton was unjust and the appointment of ball was mind boggling.

my fading memory of lee's tenure was one mediocre signing followed by another.

also the sale of flitcroft at the most pivotal time of the season played a huge part in city going down, and not recovering ever during lee's stay in charge.

If Swales had stayed in charge there wouldn't have been a club to get relegated to Div 3! I had a few shares at that time and the published accounts were bad enough, fuck knows what was hidden underneath.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

When Franny came on the pitch after taking over, I headed off to the bar behind the Kippax with my brother and a mate. We got a couple of pints each and didn't return for the second half. Somehow we knew the toilet paper magnate was full of sh1t.

I had joined in some of the Swales out protests for the buzz on the Maine Road forecourt. However, when the Forward with Franny crew wouldn't condemn the bullying of Swales' elderly mum then I couldn't be bothered with it any more.

How lucky we are with Sheik Mansour.

 

[baildon blue]

Franny Lee will always be a legend at Man City.Yes he was a cr** chairman.But a lot of the damage had been done by Peter Swales.Who ever took over after Swales was on a losing ticket.Biggest mistake Franny made was sacking Brian Horton and appointing Alan Ball.

 

[goatinho]

i was on the front page of evening news when it was kicking off outside the main entrance....still got the evening news....i think it was after we got beat against oxford at home?

 

[TGR]

Franny Lee will always be a legend at Man City.Yes he was a cr** chairman.But a lot of the damage had been done by Peter Swales.Who ever took over after Swales was on a losing ticket.Biggest mistake Franny made was sacking Brian Horton and appointing Alan Ball.

Horton put together a good team and we played some great football under him!
Was he the manager when we got beat by Spurs in the FA cup quarter final and we had the infamous pitch invasion?
I'll never forget the Manchester Evening News published the pictures of all the people who invaded the pitch so they could be caught and they had one picture of a bloke dressed in head to foot in a clown suit and big floppy clown shoes complete with clown make up and a big red nose! Fucking hilarious it really was!

 

[lancs blue]

However, when the Forward with Franny crew wouldn't condemn the bullying of Swales' elderly mum then I couldn't be bothered with it any more.

I thought that story was a load of shit fabricated by the media? How could they condemn something that didn't happen?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Who ever took over after Swales was on a losing ticket.

Im afraid you bought his hype. He was good at that, passing the buck like a Tory prime minister. What what you've said above couldn't be further from the truth.

At the time franny came in (93?)everyone wanted a piece of the clubs involved In the brand new premier league. Everyone knew that money was about to flood into the game, so people like the Edwards positioned themselves to be made for life. That's what franny wanted. Money and fame. He might have tried to make out this was altruistic but of course it wasn't.

Swales had run us bang into the red but we were bringing through good kids and didn't have a bad side. If franny had not made such awful decisions he could have made himself £10m in a few years and city would not have slid down the divisions. Some of those decisions? The appointment of ball was a bad one but what about the sale of flitcroft in the middle of a crucial- incredibly crucial given sky- relegation battles? He even managed to raise some cash from a rights issue and let frank Clark spunk the lot. The reason no one wanted to manage city when we were really shit was that franny put them off the job. He's always been full of himself and people could read that. He thought he knew more than the managers.

I don't mind franny looking for his slice of pie. It's business and that's what everyone does. I don't doubt he believed he could deliver and also tried his best. But his dictatorial nature caused ructions. Remember David makin's gmr rant? Said it all. And it toppled franny in the end.

 

[andyhinch]

Who ever took over after Swales was on a losing ticket.

Im afraid you bought his hype. He was good at that, passing the buck like a Tory prime minister. What what you've said above couldn't be further from the truth.

At the time franny came in (93?)everyone wanted a piece of the clubs involved In the brand new premier league. Everyone knew that money was about to flood into the game, so people like the Edwards positioned themselves to be made for life. That's what franny wanted. Money and fame. He might have tried to make out this was altruistic but of course it wasn't.

Swales had run us bang into the red but we were bringing through good kids and didn't have a bad side. If franny had not made such awful decisions he could have made himself £10m in a few years and city would not have slid down the divisions. Some of those decisions? The appointment of ball was a bad one but what about the sale of flitcroft in the middle of a crucial- incredibly crucial given sky- relegation battles? He even managed to raise some cash from a rights issue and let frank Clark spunk the lot. The reason no one wanted to manage city when we were really shit was that franny put them off the job. He's always been full of himself and people could read that. He thought he knew more than the managers.

I don't mind franny looking for his slice of pie. It's business and that's what everyone does. I don't doubt he believed he could deliver and also tried his best. But his dictatorial nature caused ructions. Remember David makin's gmr rant? Said it all. And it toppled franny in the end.

I think there was a big anything but Swales mind set at the time, which my of clouded people's minds.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

However, when the Forward with Franny crew wouldn't condemn the bullying of Swales' elderly mum then I couldn't be bothered with it any more.

I thought that story was a load of shit fabricated by the media? How could they condemn something that didn't happen?

It's ever been officially confirmed or denied. But things were nasty.

What definitely happened were leaflets given out around the south Manchester pubs with a map, an arrow and an address. And Swales ended up under police protection, his house under surveillance, 24 hour guards, the lot. Brenda Swales did a very revealing interview about 10 years ago.

The idiot should have walked long before of course.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Who ever took over after Swales was on a losing ticket.

Im afraid you bought his hype. He was good at that, passing the buck like a Tory prime minister. What what you've said above couldn't be further from the truth.

At the time franny came in (93?)everyone wanted a piece of the clubs involved In the brand new premier league. Everyone knew that money was about to flood into the game, so people like the Edwards positioned themselves to be made for life. That's what franny wanted. Money and fame. He might have tried to make out this was altruistic but of course it wasn't.

Swales had run us bang into the red but we were bringing through good kids and didn't have a bad side. If franny had not made such awful decisions he could have made himself £10m in a few years and city would not have slid down the divisions. Some of those decisions? The appointment of ball was a bad one but what about the sale of flitcroft in the middle of a crucial- incredibly crucial given sky- relegation battles? He even managed to raise some cash from a rights issue and let frank Clark spunk the lot. The reason no one wanted to manage city when we were really shit was that franny put them off the job. He's always been full of himself and people could read that. He thought he knew more than the managers.

I don't mind franny looking for his slice of pie. It's business and that's what everyone does. I don't doubt he believed he could deliver and also tried his best. But his dictatorial nature caused ructions. Remember David makin's gmr rant? Said it all. And it toppled franny in the end.

I think there was a big anything but Swales mind set at the time, which my of clouded people's minds.

There certainly was, and that included me.

The only blue who I knew who wasn't euphoric about him was my Dad, who played with him at Bolton. Said immediately he was an arrogant bastard. But for the rest of us it was as exciting as when The Sheikh first arrived.