frequent Dr visits

[bluegonads]

found this on another site....

Dear All,

This could be very serious. The Conservatives are floating plans to cap the number of times we are allowed to visit our GP. [1] If we run out of visits – because we've got a sickly child or long-term health condition, for example – we could be forced to pay to go elsewhere.

At the moment it's just a proposal. [2] But if the Conservatives don't see a big public backlash, it could soon be a grim reality. So let's raise an outcry as quickly as possible and push them to drop the idea immediately.

Please sign the urgent petition now: tell health minister Jeremy Hunt to rule out limiting our access to NHS GPs:
<a class="postlink" href="https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/dont-cap-GP-visits" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/dont-cap-GP-visits</a>

Jeremy Hunt will be watching the public's reaction carefully. He is an ambitious politician with an eye on his own popularity. If he sees a huge petition growing fast, he'll realise this is damaging his ratings. So if enough of us sign, we could play a key role in getting this idea dropped.

Being able to visit the family doctor when we need it is a bedrock of a decent health system. GPs are often our first port of call when we're ill. [3] Limiting access to GPs could mean a dangerous illness is left undetected until it's too late – unless of course you've got private medical insurance…

But this isn't just about GPs. This is about a principle at the heart of our battle to protect the NHS. Since the NHS was created, everyone in Britain has been able to rely on visiting a doctor as often as we need to. Limiting access would undermine the NHS at its very foundations. So let's send the Conservatives a strong message: drop this terrible idea.

<a class="postlink" href="https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/dont-cap-GP-visits" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/dont-cap-GP-visits</a>


Thanks for being involved,

 

[Never Mind The Pollocks]

This could never go through surely? This should be a step too far even for the Tories.

 

[CTID1988]

I have a feeling this is more of the fake outrage bollocks you see on facebook.
Will never happen. Next

 

[denislawsbackheel]

You want to do a bit if reading. It is indeed being considered by Hunt.

 

[CTID1988]

You want to do a bit if reading. It is indeed being considered by Hunt.

Im blind

 

[Techno]

I call BS, obviously not you bluegonads but this will not happen.

They already limit people's visits to the docs by making them wait 2 weeks for an appointment. You're either cured or dead by the time you get in.

That's not the Tories doing, it all started under Blair.

The NHS will have to change - too many people using, not enough contributing. It won't be changed by giving you a maximum number of free visits though.

 

[kaz7]

never going to happen,if they do try and bring it in it will be the fastest u turn in history

 

[urmston]

Something has got to be done to stop people going to the doctor or A and E for trivial matters.

Perhaps people could be charged if they turned up too often with a string of minor issues, but with no charges for people with a problem known to the doctor and where the doctor tells you to book another appointment.

All visits to the doctor coast money, and why should the taxpayer fund endless visits by people who turn up every time they cut their finger or their child has a cold?

 

[Never Mind The Pollocks]

Something has got to be done to stop people going to the doctor or A and E for trivial matters.

Perhaps people could be charged if they turned up too often with a string of minor issues, but with no charges for people with a problem known to the doctor and where the doctor tells you to book another appointment.

All visits to the doctor coast money, and why should the taxpayer fund endless visits by people who turn up every time they cut their finger or their child has a cold?

True but you have to think about the people this could harm. As always it would be societies most vulnerable who would lose out (disabled people, the long term sick etc.)

 

[117 M34]

A lot of appointments could be done over the phone and that is something that could be looked at.
I have been going to the docs fairly regularly for the last year (not once for 8 years before that) but every one of them could have been done over the phone, surely this would save money?

Also, what about people who are out of work, how will they pay for doctors visit? And if it will be free for them, how will those who pay taxes feel about having to pay even more for a service that others who don't contribute in the first place get for free?

 

[The Flash]

You want to do a bit if reading. It is indeed being considered by Hunt.

Im blind

You should visit your GP, then....

 

[urmston]

When the NHS started everything was free at the point of delivery and prescriptions were free too.

Now we pay for glasses, dentistry and prescriptions. And these charges increase far faster than inflation.

Charging will continue to be an increasing source of NHS funding.

The NHS funding model has not been copied by any other major country and we are gradually finding out why.

 

[MCFC-alan88]

It's already been stopped.

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[TGR]

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rightsandwrongs.co.uk/component/content/article/19219-health-nhs-victory-small-but-significant" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rightsandwrongs.co.uk/compon ... ignificant</a>

Good news. It looks like we may have nipped it in the bud. Jeremy Hunt has been forced to respond to our 180,000-strong petition. And he’s made a public pledge to "never" introduce a limit on the number of times we’re allowed to visit our GP.

End of thread. Move on.

 

[TGR]

When the NHS started everything was free at the point of delivery and prescriptions were free too.

Now we pay for glasses, dentistry and prescriptions. And these charges increase far faster than inflation.

Charging will continue to be an increasing source of NHS funding.

The NHS funding model has not been copied by any other major country and we are gradually finding out why.

Yes it was but the world has changed - in some ways for the better and in some ways for the worst.
When the NHS was first delivered you couldn't get cosmetic surgery or Homeopathic remedies on the NHS because it wasn't designed for that - now you can and they have to paid for.

There are more many cancer curing / life saving drugs available now - they are extremely expensive and have to be paid for.

The population was a lot lower. More people means more demand and therefore more cost - it all has to be paid for.

Life expectancy has increased significantly since the NHS was intoduced - it has to be paid for.

There wan't any NHS 'health tourist' abuse of the system - now it costs millions and it all has to be paid for.

The reason the NHS is no longer 'fit for purpose' is that it was never designed to be what we are trying to make it today.

And as a previous poster has stated there are far more people taking out of the NHS system (on every level) than are putting in.

The Nordic countries and also Switzerland have almost ideal NHS systems - however the tax the people pay for it is significantly higher than we pay or are prepared to pay in the UK. If any UK political party said they were going to significantly increase taxes to fund the NHS they would be toast!

Don't blame the NHS system for its short comings today as it was never designed to be what we want it to be today and unless we increase its funding it never will be.

 

[mcmanus]

I thought the nasty party were just a bit dumb but fuck me they've outdone themselves with this ill thought out bollocks.

 

[Anonymous]

A ridiculous idea right from the start ......

 

[Pelly Greeny]

http://www.rightsandwrongs.co.uk/component/content/article/19219-health-nhs-victory-small-but-significant

Good news. It looks like we may have nipped it in the bud. Jeremy Hunt has been forced to respond to our 180,000-strong petition. And he’s made a public pledge to "never" introduce a limit on the number of times we’re allowed to visit our GP.

End of thread. Move on.

I might start one saying that MCFC are going to change their home colours to red. Get 200,000 Blues to sign it and when Khaldhoon comes out and says ' In response to the online petition I'd like to state that I never said I was going to change our colours and have no intention of ever doing so'

I'll then smugly post that we have got him to change his mind.

 

[tidyman]

My doctors in Hulme does some appointments by Skype.

I think it's a great idea for those that have the facility and are happy to go along with it. Obviously some people will have to then make a proper appointment if he needs to see them. But as an initial contact, I'm sure it saves a lot of time and money for the doctor and is a lot easier for some of the patients.

 

[steve4666]

When the NHS started everything was free at the point of delivery and prescriptions were free too.

Now we pay for glasses, dentistry and prescriptions. And these charges increase far faster than inflation.

Charging will continue to be an increasing source of NHS funding.

The NHS funding model has not been copied by any other major country and we are gradually finding out why.

Yes it was but the world has changed - in some ways for the better and in some ways for the worst.
When the NHS was first delivered you couldn't get cosmetic surgery or Homeopathic remedies on the NHS because it wasn't designed for that - now you can and they have to paid for.

There are more many cancer curing / life saving drugs available now - they are extremely expensive and have to be paid for.

The population was a lot lower. More people means more demand and therefore more cost - it all has to be paid for.

Life expectancy has increased significantly since the NHS was intoduced - it has to be paid for.

There wan't any NHS 'health tourist' abuse of the system - now it costs millions and it all has to be paid for.

The reason the NHS is no longer 'fit for purpose' is that it was never designed to be what we are trying to make it today.

And as a previous poster has stated there are far more people taking out of the NHS system (on every level) than are putting in.

The Nordic countries and also Switzerland have almost ideal NHS systems - however the tax the people pay for it is significantly higher than we pay or are prepared to pay in the UK. If any UK political party said they were going to significantly increase taxes to fund the NHS they would be toast!

Don't blame the NHS system for its short comings today as it was never designed to be what we want it to be today and unless we increase its funding it never will be.

Bob on mate. 100% right. We want more, unfortunately we have to pay more.