FantasyIreland
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Sterling has been shite for most of the season,and other than the goal and throwing himself on the floor,he was invisible today......that's his point.
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OB1
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Rodri got 45 mins rest vs. Burnley and won't play Marseilles.
Pep is doing a perfect job of rotating the squad and keeping minutes down.
It seems like the supposed frustration with substitutes is actually just people wanting Foden to play every game.
Foden will have to bide his time: Pep has moved to a 4-4-2 so Phil is going to be battling mostly with Raz, Torres, Mahrez and Bernado for a wide berth.
Edit - I mistyped above: meant 4-2-4
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Foden has played in every single Manchester City game this season bar 3. And he has started 9 of our 18 games.
I seriously don't know how you can have the gall to complain about Mahrez and Sterling. FFS since Pep dropped them Mahrez has been excellent and Sterling won the game today with a goal and winning the penalty.
And wouldn't you know it both games went perfectly.like I said before its almost as if Pep knows what he is doing and you're just whining like a spoilt child because the particular player you like isn't starting every game.
How have I whined like a spoilt child? You happy clappers are funny. Any vague criticism and you all spit your dummy out whilst claiming others are overreacting.
You actually proved my point with your stats btw. He's been on the bench for half the games.
If KDB was benched for half the games I'm not sure people would be happy.
All I've said is that Foden is an exceptional talent and at any other team he'd be starting near every game.
Sterling has been shite for most of the season,and other than the goal and throwing himself on the floor,he was invisible today......that's his point.
You're viewpoint of Sterling has become so warped that its no longer even slightly amusing.
Sterling played an excellent game, other than being responsible for both goals he carried the ball well, set up multiple other chances for his teammates and ran himself into the ground. He rightfully got the MOTM award from the clubs fan vote.
You can keep repeating the lie that he didnt do anything except throw himself to the ground but it won't stop being a lie through repetition.
cleavers
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I don't think many of those that didn't play will play midweek either, there's no point, the group is won, the first team squad need some rest, it'll be a young team, with perhaps a defence of Garcia Laporte Ake Zinchenko, Doyle Bernardo and a few of the kids that are available to the squad, some of the senior players will be on the bench to make up the numbers, but won't be used. I expect there will be outrage when Foden is on the bench again.That’s what Pep was doing today. Protecting the players on the bench today from coming on and putting needless minutes into their legs. Everyone who played today will get a rest midweek. It’s good squad management from Pep, I don’t know why people can’t see it.
kaz7
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At least the other complainers got the nite off , they were waiting to jump in as usual , never mind
cleavers
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He's not starting "every game" for a f**king good reason, he's being looked after, he's 20, he plays a whole season every 3 or 4 days (including pointless internationals), and his body will be f**ked by his late 20's like rooney/owen were, prone to injury, slowing down (or in rooneys case coming to a halt).All I've said is that Foden is an exceptional talent and at any other team he'd be starting near every game.
All I've said is that Foden is an exceptional talent and at any other team he'd be starting near every game
Is this the most inane piece of commentary you've offered up yet?
Yeah I'm sure he would be playing every week for a mid-tabl side. So would Zinchenko and Cancelo and everyone else good enough to get a place in this squad.
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Sterling has been shite for most of the season,and other than the goal and throwing himself on the floor,he was invisible today......that's his point.
Confirmation bias is a treatable condition
Manc Born & Bred
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What is this 442 malarkey. It’s either a 433, 4141 or a 4123 but it’s not a 442Foden will have to bide his time: Pep has moved to a 4-4-2 so Phil is going to be battling mostly with Raz, Torres, Mahrez and Bernado for a wide berth.
Wishful thinking mate but teams are not there just get hammered by us so they play to there strengths and the master is Jose . Spurs sat back and took what we had then hit us which is what Utd will do if we don’t take our chances .Even teams at the top do it when City arent playing well ah maureen
OB1
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He's not starting "every game" for a f**king good reason, he's being looked after, he's 20, he plays a whole season every 3 or 4 days (including pointless internationals), and his body will be f**ked by his 20's like rooney/owen were, prone to injury, slowing down (or in rooneys case coming to a halt).
I have no doubt that Pep continues to protect Foden; maybe he is over protective; maybe not. We may only be able to judge how Pep has managed Foden years down the line.
OB1
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What is this 442 malarkey. It’s either a 433, 4141 or a 4123 but it’s not a 442
Actually, if you look at average positions in recent games it's more 2-4-4 but I'm gong to include the full backs in the defence.
I mistyped my preceding post (not my reply above) and intended to write 4-2-4. So yeah, 4-4-2 was bollocks really although the point was no to get hung up on telephone numbers but the fact we have two in central midfield.
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He's not starting "every game" for a f**king good reason, he's being looked after, he's 20, he plays a whole season every 3 or 4 days (including pointless internationals), and his body will be f**ked by his 20's like rooney/owen were, prone to injury, slowing down (or in rooneys case coming to a halt).
That’s just nonsense though isn’t it. There are absolutely loads of players who played regularly when they were teenagers who weren’t finished in their 20’s. Rooney didn’t look after his body properly, it had nothing to do with him starting playing young.
purplenose
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I only saw the second half so cannot really judge todays game fully. I assume the first half was a better show than the second which really looked like a training kick about. The defence looked totally comfortable and another decent showing from Stones that is encouraging. Lots of possession some slick passing but never really looked like scoring with the usual chances spurned, Kev, Dias being guilty.
I assume Sterling was ok in the first half given he scored and got a penalty, hardly even saw him in the second half, Jesus hard working but ineffective today. We desperately need that new striker.
Nobody particularly awful in the second half most quite good enough. Underwhelming but the points are the important thing and in all honesty at this stage of a very busy run of fixtures were the intention in the second half to get through it with the minimum energy use or risk of injury you can hardly blame either players or management against such a poor side who were never going to threaten to get those goals back.
I assume Sterling was ok in the first half given he scored and got a penalty, hardly even saw him in the second half, Jesus hard working but ineffective today. We desperately need that new striker.
Nobody particularly awful in the second half most quite good enough. Underwhelming but the points are the important thing and in all honesty at this stage of a very busy run of fixtures were the intention in the second half to get through it with the minimum energy use or risk of injury you can hardly blame either players or management against such a poor side who were never going to threaten to get those goals back.
cleavers
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I'd rather he was over protective, the reason he's been playing midweek recently is in my opinion Southgate playing him in that international on the Wednesday before the spurs game, he could have given him a run out today but he's played 180 minutes in the last 11 days, more than enough for a still developing young footballer.I have no doubt that Pep continues to protect Foden; maybe he is over protective; maybe not. We may only be able to judge how Pep has managed Foden years down the line.
cleavers
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No it's not nonsense. Foden has played 180 minutes in the last 11 days (go on check), it's not about being tired, it's about becoming injury prone by over use as well.That’s just nonsense though isn’t it. There are absolutely loads of players who played regularly when they were teenagers who weren’t finished in their 20’s. Rooney didn’t look after his body properly, it had nothing to do with him starting playing young.
Fook me we won at a canter today and people want to argue about something else. The players (ours in particular) had no pre-season because football is really only interested in ££$$££$$ not it's employees, I'm glad City are at least trying to look after ours.
Football is a dynamic game and narratives change every day. You really need to move on from "Sterling's been shite all season, so Foden deserves to start". As an aside, this is why so many managers are absolutely fucking awful - they put too much weight on what happened in the past few months/years and not enough on the immediate past/present.Sterling has been shite for most of the season,and other than the goal and throwing himself on the floor,he was invisible today......that's his point.
"Every match and training session, you start from zero" is cliche at this point, but it is 100% true. If Foden performs good in one match, but is not better in training the next day than the players he's competing against, he won't start. Only Pep and the coaching staff have access to that information, so you have to trust them as long as their decisions deliver good results/performances (and they are).
One of the things that people should do before criticising the manager is ask "what could be the reasons for him doing that" instead of "ffs why hasn't he done what I want". More often that not, you will find the answers yourself. All you have to do is ask yourself the question, instead of taking the immediate and easy route of whinging and moaning at every turn.
Yes indeedFootball is a dynamic game and narratives change every day. You really need to move on from "Sterling's been shite all season, so Foden deserves to start". As an aside, this is why so many managers are absolutely fucking awful - they put too much weight on what happened in the past few months/years and not enough on the immediate past/present.
"Every match and training session, you start from zero" is cliche at this point, but it is 100% true. If Foden performs good in one match, but is not better in training the next day than the players he's competing against, he won't start. Only Pep and the coaching staff have access to that information, so you have to trust them as long as their decisions deliver good results/performances (and they are).
One of the things that people should do before criticising the manager is ask "what could be the reasons for him doing that" instead of "ffs why hasn't he done what I want". More often that not, you will find the answers yourself. All you have to do is ask yourself the question, instead of taking the immediate and easy route of whinging and moaning at every turn.