Full employment

Mechanisation and automation has always created jobs, not destroyed them - it's only in the specific roles affected that it has destroyed them.

This fear goes right back to the industrial revolution. In France, workers replaced by machines flung their wooden shoes called sabots into the machines to destroy them. Hence the term "sabotage".
 
Henkeman said:
Mechanisation and automation has always created jobs, not destroyed them - it's only in the specific roles affected that it has destroyed them.

This fear goes right back to the industrial revolution. In France, workers replaced by machines flung their wooden shoes called sabots into the machines to destroy them. Hence the term "sabotage".

and in the uk we had the Luddites.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
Henkeman said:
Mechanisation and automation has always created jobs, not destroyed them - it's only in the specific roles affected that it has destroyed them.

This fear goes right back to the industrial revolution. In France, workers replaced by machines flung their wooden shoes called sabots into the machines to destroy them. Hence the term "sabotage".

and in the uk we had the Luddites.
ludditage?
 
waterloo blue said:
The replacement of workers by automation and increased computerisation,is a fact of modern life.
Do you think we'll ever have jobs for everyone who wants one?,they'll always be people who are unemployable (like Gollum),but for the majority of the population,will there ever be meaningful work for all?.
If we have to a portion of the population unable to access paid work,what provisions should the government make for them?,obviously; benefits for life aren't really an option.
No, it`s the nature of capitalism to pitch worker against worker. Until we have a fairer society, instead of the one we have now, where a minute amount of people own 95% of the worlds wealth, then we people will always be dying of starvation and getting killed in mines as they work for the bosses who want maximum profit out of every bead of sweat. Capitalism kilss, fuck it off.
 
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Interesting breakdown of economist article on this subject
 
You cannot have full employment in a capitalist society. The last time we were anywhere near it, in the 1950s, the employers all cried like little girls because Jack could tell the foreman to do one on Friday and walk into a new job on Monday. Wages went up and up, and helped create inflation. Hence the political decision to have lots of immigration to cut labour costs, and later the deliberate policy of Thatcher to create unemployment to weaken the unions and reduce pressure for higher wages.

This is why it is deeply immoral to blame the unemployed for a situation which they have not created and which is actually desirable from the point of view of employers and the broader economy.

There will never be full employment. Never. If we ever got near to it, they would simply bring new workers in from abroad. The exceptions would be a) another world war, with many in the Services and the rest subject to direction of labour, and b) a socialist state. One is as unlikely to come about as the other.
 
waterloo blue said:
The replacement of workers by automation and increased computerisation,is a fact of modern life.
Do you think we'll ever have jobs for everyone who wants one?,they'll always be people who are unemployable (like Gollum),but for the majority of the population,will there ever be meaningful work for all?.
If we have to a portion of the population unable to access paid work,what provisions should the government make for them?,obviously; benefits for life aren't really an option.

Workhouses for the extremely poor.

Plus euthanise anyone over say 70 who hasn't provided for themselves in old age or don't have family to look after them. Save the country a fucking fortune.

On a serious note no government or economy would benefit from 100%. When people are fucking begging for a job or scared to lose one employers can basically treat them like shit and pay them minimum.
 
Everybody in some form of work might reduce how hard people work when there's no competition for their jobs. Many are only a hungry applicant when they need a job and contentment might see employers struggle to find the right candidates to fill their positions. We've had so many problems at work as it is.
 

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