Future Transfer Deals

Strange that all the pundits say England are held back by the number of foreign players in the league, not giving our young players a chance........ waiting now for Dyke et all to say the world cup is nailed in future ;)
 
Whatever new rules that will be put in place may also turn out to be better than the old rules, who can say. Perhaps this whole thing becomes an advantage for the english football clubs.
 
Whatever new rules that will be put in place may also turn out to be better than the old rules, who can say. Perhaps this whole thing becomes an advantage for the english football clubs.

I am pretty sure the rules will either say the same or get worse. If the UK stays within the EEA then the exemption for EEA/ EU players will stay the exemption for u18 transfers will stay. If on the other hand the UK is outside the EEA then all bets are off and EU and non EU players will be treated the same work permits etc. If that's the case then it will be welcome back to a mostly English premier league. The FA could also impose national quotas on all teams.
 
I am pretty sure the rules will either say the same or get worse. If the UK stays within the EEA then the exemption for EEA/ EU players will stay the exemption for u18 transfers will stay. If on the other hand the UK is outside the EEA then all bets are off and EU and non EU players will be treated the same work permits etc. If that's the case then it will be welcome back to a mostly English premier league. The FA could also impose national quotas on all teams.
Why would they? The PL is a money machine, and to keep it running they need the foreign players.
 
Why would they? The PL is a money machine, and to keep it running they need the foreign players.

The work permit issue will be in the FA's hands so it depends what attitude they take to work permit applications. U18 transfers are not allowed by FIFA but there is a derogation for EU and EEA members which allows for transfers between members from 15 or 16. If the UK is outside the EU and EEA then English clubs will not be allowed sign u18s from abroad by FIFA.
 
Hope this isn't too ignorant but how does this affect player wages? Any potential serious hiccups?
If Stg were to fall and fall against other currencies particularly the Euro then some players may either want to be paid more or might find mainland Europe more attractive. But imo in the medium to long term the Euro is just as likely to depreciate as Stg so the impact would be minimal.
 
The work permit issue will be in the FA's hands so it depends what attitude they take to work permit applications. U18 transfers are not allowed by FIFA but there is a derogation for EU and EEA members which allows for transfers between members from 15 or 16. If the UK is outside the EU and EEA then English clubs will not be allowed sign u18s from abroad by FIFA.
Good point which I forgot about. This could have serious consequences for the academy.
 
Perfect example from Goal:

This would increase the price of signing players from overseas for Premier League clubs. For example, let’s say that Juventus put a price tag of €160 million on Paul Pogba. At the end of June 2015 the €/£ exchange rate was 0.709, but could easily move to 0.900 or even further after Brexit.

This would increase the price Premier League suitors, such as Chelsea or the two Manchester clubs, would have to stump up to land Pogba from £113.4m to £144m - a rise of over £30m. There would, however, be no change in the cost of buying Pogba for other clubs based in the EU, such as current favourites for his signature, Real Madrid.
 
Good point which I forgot about. This could have serious consequences for the academy.
No it won't, if you look down the age ranges you'll see that it will have little to no impact on the academy. There may be the odd top talent that we can't bring in but that will be the extent of it.

Edit: is this part of the long term planning by the Sheikh and his people? A 'just in case' bit of planning?
 
Good point which I forgot about. This could have serious consequences for the academy.

If the UK leaves the EEA then it 6/7 years time there will be very few association trained players coming through every club who aren't English as non English players would have to sign on their 18 birthday. A Clichy or Denayer won't happen. Any 18 year old non English player who signs would be in the same situation as Kelechi in terms of the Champions League.

Not sure if it will happen as I think the UK will remain part of the EEA but then again I was sure it wouldn't vote to leave the EU...
 
No it won't, if you look down the age ranges you'll see that it will have little to no impact on the academy. There may be the odd top talent that we can't bring in but that will be the extent of it.

Edit: is this part of the long term planning by the Sheikh and his people? A 'just in case' bit of planning?

It will have a very serious impact on the academy if the UK leaves the EEA. For example if UK leaves the EEA there would be no future versions of Denayer, Brahim, Haug, Fernandes, Kongolo, Dilrosun, Maffeo, Angelino, Bytyqi, Celina, Denis Suarez or Manu Garcia and potentially Byrne or Lawlor. That's just off the top of my head. The likes of Cesc and Clichy would no longer happen.

Don't think it will come to that but as it stands all bets are off and we wait and see.

There is no way this was factored into the Sheikh's planning and it does have a potential to devalue all premier league clubs depending on free movement agreements.
 
2 years gives us chance to buy the next 2 years of talent from the EU right? So in 2 years, our excellent u18s teams (mostly Brits/Irish aren't they?) will be closer to the first team. I don't think it'll harm the quality on show in the prem, at least not for MCFC with our world class academy. This is absolutely fantastic for British/N.Irish (assuming we remain a U.K.) coming through MCFC. Other clubs have a responsibility to invest in their academies now. The lack of competition from EU talent will obviously be a benefit but I wouldn't worry about a drop in quality in the prem with modern academies - we'll just see a rise in quality of Brits/Irish in my view. Considering this, the home nations should also see a rise in quality of players when this decision bears it's fruits.

In the long-term I reckon this is good for our football, but a hit on the mega-money culture in U.K. football (less investment from TV. etc due to reduced no. of EU stars), which could be seen as a positive in reigning it in.
 
2 years gives us chance to buy the next 2 years of talent from the EU right? So in 2 years, our excellent u18s teams (mostly Brits/Irish aren't they?) will be closer to the first team. I don't think it'll harm the quality on show in the prem, at least not for MCFC with our world class academy. This is absolutely fantastic for British/N.Irish (assuming we remain a U.K.) coming through MCFC. Other clubs have a responsibility to invest in their academies now. The lack of competition from EU talent will obviously be a benefit but I wouldn't worry about a drop in quality in the prem with modern academies - we'll just see a rise in quality of Brits/Irish in my view. Considering this, the home nations should also see a rise in quality of players when this decision bears it's fruits.

In the long-term I reckon this is good for our football, but a hit on the mega-money culture in U.K. football (less investment from TV. etc due to reduced no. of EU stars), which could be seen as a positive in reigning it in.

So a situation where any potentially world class players European players won't be able to come to play in England until they're 18 will be good for English football? Why not put quotas on foreign players in the premier league too?

The league was dominated by British and Irish players throughout the 80s and the early 90s and the standard of football was pretty poor so why if the situation reverts will there

No doubt all the young players at City will be given excellent coaching and as a result some English players will benefit but at the same time like all situations where there are restrictions competition declines.

As I said above I don't think the UK will leave the EEA but if it does the premier league will decline both in the young players coming through and the players who won't join. Where quality falls the the money will fall.
 
So a situation where any potentially world class players European players won't be able to come to play in England until they're 18 will be good for English football? Why not put quotas on foreign players in the premier league too?

The league was dominated by British and Irish players throughout the 80s and the early 90s and the standard of football was pretty poor so why if the situation reverts will there

No doubt all the young players at City will be given excellent coaching and as a result some English players will benefit but at the same time like all situations where there are restrictions competition declines.

As I said above I don't think the UK will leave the EEA but if it does the premier league will decline both in the young players coming through and the players who won't join. Where quality falls the the money will fall.
I'm not saying it will be good necessarily (unless I indicated that accidentally in a rush). I just mean I wouldn't be so worried for the football repercussions, of the "power" of the Premier League vs. other leagues.
 

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