Gareth Southgate knighted

69FACUPfinal said:
But it worked for a few years! And yes I have had the misfortune to see Dips, ( in all those close title races!)and whilst those you name are toerags, he is a stronger personality than Southgate.
So who would you go for?
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im not disagreeing with your choice, im just not sure he wouldnt indulge the arrogant pricks in the england team same as he did at the dippers, he is the best of a bad bunch tbf
 
johnny crossan said:
Moyes being touted now - comedy gold on TS
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Also wouldn't be the worst idea. Has won a European trophy in recent years, is well respected within the English game, and has a better club record than Southgate ever did. You don't need to be a world class manager to win international tournaments anymore. Gone are the days of super-managers like Lippi, Scolari, Del Bosque etc. who won loads consistently at club and international level. These days you just need a guy who has a clear philosophy that can be understood by 25 players in the space of two weeks and Moyes is definitely capable of doing that. It's why Pep would never work as an international manager and especially not for England - his teachings take months of daily training sessions to understand. Whereas someone like Moyes, Carsley, Potter, etc. can just go in, tell the boys what to do in a short space of time, hopefully be brave enough to dump out so some ageing egos (Walker, Kane), repair relationships with quality players (White, Grealish), and crack on with the job. Pep's obviously a miles better manager than Moyes but international football requires different stuff. You don't need an outstanding candidate, just a good communicator who's generally liked and has got a bit of a Plan B just in case Plan A doesn't work. Southgate got to two finals with less than that.
 
I just had to howl at Adrian Durham he thinks because St Jude has such high standards England should be looking to get his current club manager and build the team around that partnership as it obviously works.

Fucking hell that's idiotic on so many levels.

As for Southgate nice guy but average tactician.
 
1994 - DNQ
1996 - 3rd
1998 - R16
2000 - Group
2002 - QF
2004 - DNQ
2006 - QF
2008 - DNQ
2010 - QF
2012 - QF
2014 - Group
2016 - R16

2018 - 4th
2020 - 2nd
2022 - QF
2024 - 2nd
 
Potter even money favourite for the job.

Would rather it was Potter than Howe.
 
BringBackSwales said:
When had he had a high scoring team in recent times?
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But it's dependant on the team you're managing and the players you have available. He's shown in the past when you have good attacking players, his teams can play decent football and score plenty of goals. Managing Roma with Tammy Abraham with leading the line isn't going to be the best incentive for a manager to go out and play attacking football, then you do have to be sensible.

Southgates issue is he's "pragmatic" all the time. Mourino knew when to be pragmatic and also knew when to play football when he had the players, hence why he's one of the most successful managers there's been. You don't win what he has if your teams don't put the ball in the net and overcome top teams.
 
The FA should go all out for Guardiola. He ain’t gonna take the Spain job.
 
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