Gareth Southgate knighted

BlueHammer85 said:
That's a Holland side that France couldn't beat this tournament and a Swiss side that battered Italy and held Germany - The predicted outcome on the match day polls on here had England to lose against both these sides.
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Because Southgate was in charge
 
youngbob said:
Also wouldn't be the worst idea. Has won a European trophy in recent years, is well respected within the English game, and has a better club record than Southgate ever did. You don't need to be a world class manager to win international tournaments anymore. Gone are the days of super-managers like Lippi, Scolari, Del Bosque etc. who won loads consistently at club and international level. These days you just need a guy who has a clear philosophy that can be understood by 25 players in the space of two weeks and Moyes is definitely capable of doing that. It's why Pep would never work as an international manager and especially not for England - his teachings take months of daily training sessions to understand. Whereas someone like Moyes, Carsley, Potter, etc. can just go in, tell the boys what to do in a short space of time, hopefully be brave enough to dump out so some ageing egos (Walker, Kane), repair relationships with quality players (White, Grealish), and crack on with the job. Pep's obviously a miles better manager than Moyes but international football requires different stuff. You don't need an outstanding candidate, just a good communicator who's generally liked and has got a bit of a Plan B just in case Plan A doesn't work. Southgate got to two finals with less than that.
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think it will take someone better than a GS clone, which british managers are, our training and coaching skills are very basic, something glaringly obvious in the final. Why we wont get someone to change this, is that the FA are incapable of seeing the problem. Unless that changes, the long list of failed managers will just get longer, our perception of "pressing" will still be individual players chasing the ball, ignoring gaps, etc, instead of a co-ordinated strategy that involves the whole team acting in concert.
 
There maybe better foreign managers out there but they're not English. We've been down the foreign manager approach twice before and it didn't work. I'd be quite happy to see Potter as boss even though he hasn't really done anything in the game, but he got Brighton playing exciting football.
 
You can't ignore what he had done at Chelsea even if it was not all down to Potter partly his fault. The City lads maybe humble but the rest of the squad isn't and that was one of Potter's biggest downfalls in getting the seniors buying into his whole ethos. Just because he did a good job at Brighton doesn't mean he can get the best out of England's supposed talent. The next appointment doesn't have to be English.
 
Crooked_rain said:
You don't win as many trophies as him by being as negative as people say....
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10 years since he won a league title.
12 years since he won a national cup.
14 years since he won the CL.


Why not hire Van Gaal or bring back Capello? They were also good a few decades ago.
 
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