Gary Neville

It's not just England, it' pretty much whole of the world, but what's worst the Western world, where racism was not tolerated one iota in last few decades. It was always there at some percentage, of course, but with political events like Trump winning in USA, immigration crisis from 2015, Brexit/Johnson win, there's more and more racists who feel that they now have some kind of political support to be more brave and come out of the closet. Doesn't look good at all for the future and our kids.

Correct. Western society is heading backwards at an alarming rate and fuelled heavily by the media bombarding people with racially provocative news stories over the last several years.
 
Unless my ears deceived me that isn't what he said at all. He said we need to sort out our problems before casting aspersions.

If you can't see that there is a massive societal problem with racism in this country that is worsening then I don't think this conversation is for you mate.

Couldn't give a fuck what people's political affiliations are, people from left to right are vocalising this putrid, hate crime, bullshit and we need more people like Nevile calling it out. End of.

You're wrong this is the most tolerant country on the face of this earth IMO, how this arbitrary figure came out is beyond me, some people couldn't recognise their own backsides in a backside recognising contest.
 
@blueinsa

Just to clarify:

There was talk about an Asian person.

Someone then said ‘Opinions appear to be slanted in both directions’.

You then reacted to it with a wink face and said ‘brillaint’.

Maybe you did this by mistake though I don’t know. Just saying what I saw.
 
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I am not getting into an argument on my first back. Good day. He referred to last nights election debate. If you can’t see the link that’s your issue not mine.
Right so he didn’t call 52% of the country racist then. That was a link you made. Glad we cleared it up.
 
You're wrong this is the most tolerant country on the face of this earth IMO, how this arbitrary figure came out is beyond me, some people couldn't recognise their own backsides in a backside recognising contest.

I'm wrong because you say I am? My words are wrong based on your opinion? That's not how this works.

I agree with you in as much as some of the best of us are the best of humanity. We have some truly great people and communities, without doubt.

But, and I'm sorry you're not going to like this... we also have a growing number of neanderthals that are emboldened to put this utter bile in the public domain. Feeling that it is acceptable to do so in the process. And it is worsening, you telling me it isn't doesn't change a fact mate. Couldn't give a flying fuck if you tell me I'm wrong, facts don't lie.

The fact you talk about an "arbitrary figure" makes me think you don't know what an arbitrary figure is because I didn't quote a fucking statistic.

BUT if you want some statistics have a read of this and tell me racism and hate crimes aren't worsening...

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-2018-to-2019

Trying to be level headed about this but some of you just don't and won't fucking accept this is a growing issue and it is infuriating and insulting in equal measure.
 
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You're wrong this is the most tolerant country on the face of this earth IMO, how this arbitrary figure came out is beyond me, some people couldn't recognise their own backsides in a backside recognising contest.
Which arbitrary figure?!
 
It's not just England, it' pretty much whole of the world, but what's worst the Western world, where racism was not tolerated one iota in last few decades. It was always there at some percentage, of course, but with political events like Trump winning in USA, immigration crisis from 2015, Brexit/Johnson win, there's more and more racists who feel that they now have some kind of political support to be more brave and come out of the closet. Doesn't look good at all for the future and our kids.

correct on every point
 
We have had 2 instances in isolation recently. They should, and will, be dealt with.

Does that mean we have a wider problem? Imo, no. Not at all. Like I said. Isolation.

You have to use other countries as a barometer because some really do have major issues, and this gives us some clarity around what we are actually dealing with when we look at them side by side.

Is this country racist as a general rule, absolutely not. We are one of the most open nations on planet earth.

Just a word on Jones btw. He was clearly under instruction and did his job. Those people pay his wages.

What do some people want? Him to speak out and then have to resign?

Behave
 
Just checked back, and worsleyweb wrongly claimed that Neville effectively called 52% of the country racist. As citykev28 has pointed out, that was clearly not true.

Thanks bud, someone extrapolated from what Neville said of Boris and his voters and got 52%.

Looking now at what Neville has to say it's confusing, it's why idiots with a mike should stick to what they pretend to know rather than what they don't know. Didn't he stick his beak in pre-election like other Labour voters?

EDIT: I voted Labour and Remain

He added: “[This fan] thinks he can come to a game and racially abuse someone playing football. It is disgusting. It is terrible and something has to be done. It is not just about banning him from football. Everyone has a responsibility.”

I ask what should be done? What does Neville want to be done? We should ban them which I agree with, maybe charge them for hate crimes which I agree with. But we already do that don't we? what is Neville suggesting?
 
Just checked back, and worsleyweb wrongly claimed that Neville effectively called 52% of the country racist. As citykev28 has pointed out, that was clearly not true.

Bloody hell! First day back. I am right. Neville said Boris saying we need to limit immigration in last nights election debate fuelled racism. I saw him actually say it. Why do you think Brexit happened and the tories won? The vast majority of people want to control immigration and this is why Brexit has been voted for effectively 6 times!! Note the word effectively. Are all the people who voted Boris on the back of THAT election debate racist? I feel physically sick at the racist abuse that city fan did and that **** today but his comments on Boris were wrong!! Can people not want to limit immigration due to the pressure it is putting on public services?

It clearly was true! He had no right to say Boris wanting to control immigration made him a racist and link it to the wank stain of a city fan. This is why labour lost! They effectively labelled their supporters racist!

It is not sinking in.

I am watching Scrooge now so goodnight. And please don’t ban me!

Unless I am cracking up I am totally right and maintain my right to stand by my opinion which has most certainly not been proved wrong.
 
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