General Election June 8th

[Metal Biker]

The average salary of a nurse is just over 23k . Food Banks?

23k? That's more than double what i'm on!

 

[blue cigar]

To me Corbyn is more "Socialist Labour" than "Democratic Labour", but each to their own.

Again, I don't feel that May and the Conservatives have the working classes interest nor do they speak for them on the whole, but again, neither do I feel Labour do. There is still a large element of contempt for us, especially since it was working class labour that voted for Brexit and they despise us for doing so, something they didn't expect. There's almost a sense that the Cooper's, Smith's, Lammy's, Abbott's and Mandelson's of the party seek to 'punish' us for it rather than even attempt to see things from our point of view. Corbyn never truly believed in the idea of the EU or remaining but it looks like he was todied into it by the Blairites in his party just so he could keep order for five minutes, and even after the result they still tried to oust him.

I'd approve of Labour more if they made more effort to remove the Blairites, oppose the EU (like they had done for decades before Blair) and really speak up for the workers instead of adopting the "help the poor" rhetoric of recent years. They make us feel like we don't matter or our concerns play second fiddle to the "save the world" ideology they've taken up. Until it changes, Labour will continue to be slaughtered in the polls. I don't anticipate a Conservative landslide, but neither do I expect a Labour win.

Then we are aligned. I would love labour to be a genuine labour party but they are beset by blairite types and it isnt about to change. My stance is that corbyn at least cares about the poor even if he is misguided with some pledges. Thats why he gets my vote. If may actually mixed with normal people and looked convinced by her ideals i would take note. She has done the opposite and that makes me wary.

 

[blue cigar]

The average salary of a nurse is just over 23k . Food Banks?

Average salary. So some are on much lower? Id suggest those are the ones using food banks. In some parts of the uk 21k will not give you much of a chance.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Average salary. So some are on much lower? Id suggest those are the ones using food banks. In some parts of the uk 21k will not give you much of a chance.

Average salary of teachers is 28k mate. I think we need more food banks as it would seem we all need them, or maybe there are people who can afford to shop at supermarkets but who CHOOSE to get stuff from food banks. It might be their own circumstances granted , or they might be selfish.

I am not sure foodbanks are for people earning over 20k.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

What a twat!

 

[blue cigar]

Average salary of teachers is 28k mate. I think we need more food banks as it would seem we all need them, or maybe there are people who can afford to shop at supermarkets but who CHOOSE to get stuff from food banks. It might be their own circumstances granted , or they might be selfish.

I am not sure foodbanks are for people earning over 20k.

Me neither but it was put to our pm by a respected figure so who am i to question it. Some nurses are on shite money and its quite likely they need to use food banks, maybe we are all a little ignorant and assume they are hardly used? The pm doesnt seem to give a shiny shit thats for sure.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Well things have gone to shit if nurses and teachers need to use food banks that is a sorry state of affairs of our nation. Thats dreadful.

I hope it's not the case.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

According to the DFE the average teacher wage is £37400.

 

[Metal Biker]

Then we are aligned. I would love labour to be a genuine labour party but they are beset by blairite types and it isnt about to change. My stance is that corbyn at least cares about the poor even if he is misguided with some pledges. Thats why he gets my vote. If may actually mixed with normal people and looked convinced by her ideals i would take note. She has done the opposite and that makes me wary.

Brexit is my main issue at present and which party will deliver most on the winning majority.

My family has voted Labour since probably the 1930's, it's engrained in my family's ethos. This Labour are the party of the metropolitan middle classes. They're socialites, not socialists. It's also ironic that so many people criticised Cameron and his cabinet when I consider them to be the most 'left wing' Tory cabinet in recent history, yet people still wanted them out. May is moving the Conservatives more to the right and it's resonating with the public. Does it mean a shift in British society? Possibly, but then it's not surprising given the rhetoric from the left in recent years.

I actually do like Theresa May as PM, she seems more of a doer than a procrastinator to me. We need a doer in this period of EU separation not someone who'll drag their feet. If Corbyn was more like his younger self, anti-EU federalism and wanting the UK out of the Common Market, i'd back him, but even he knows that he'd have to face the backlash of what that would mean amongst his own party members. To get back that core Labour working class support he needs to stop pandering to the socialite, new labour, middle class ethic and start recognising and addressing the concerns of the working people of the UK, no matter how 'unethical' and 'racist' it appears to the metropolitan mindset.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

According to the DFE the average teacher wage is £37400.

Google search I did was lower but you may be right as I thought low. Anyway the point I think is people earning 20k plus really should not feel the need to use foodbanks and if they do need to that is a sorry state of affairs for them and society.