General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%
  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%

  • Total voters
    656
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Well....A Tory PM playing the xenophobia card to look strong in a grab for votes. Who'd have thunk it?

I suppose the only plus is that's UKIP dead and buried now.
 
Where have a I been thin skinned or aggressively defensive? I even thanked you in my last reply.
I haven't mentioned you, nor was that post meant to refer to you.It referred to Labour politicians and the more vocal defenders such as personalities in the press/social media and political figures.

Apologies if you felt it was aimed at you. I assure you that was not the intention.
 
I haven't mentioned you, nor was that post meant to refer to you.It referred to Labour politicians and the more vocal defenders such as personalities in the press/social media and political figures.

Apologies if you felt it was aimed at you. I assure you that was not the intention.
Unfortunately celebs and personalities seem to think their voices are louder than yours or mine. Whether it's Lilly Allen, JK Rowling or Gary Lineker (who failed to comment on The bbcs tweet about Pete the badge, but been very vocal about mental health cuts in the past) It certainly didn't do Hilary any favours during her election battle with Trump.

Sorry for getting you to explain who you were commenting on, maybe I'm more thin skinned than I thought ;)
 
I'm asking about Murdoch and his influence because one of Labours policies is to go after people like Murdoch. How does that distract from the GE topic? I thought the whole point in this thread is to cover policies, unearth as much as you can and hopefully help others who maybe don't know which way to vote.

Unfortunately others use it as a dick waving contest

Who does not think that Murdoch should be 'gone after'? - of course he should. Same with big corporations that do not pay there taxes etc.

In that sense you make an entirely valid point - but I thought at the time that it was not really relevant to / a distraction from MB's post

Perhaps I was just carrying on an hangover from the A50 thread where there are a lot of posts made which have no substance - the intent being simply to distract from messages poster do not want to hear it seems.

Anyway, back on topic, whilst going after Murdoch, corporations etc. should have the support of everyone, the concerns that I have with that stance and Labour's campaign to this point are:

1. The stance loses credibility as people will think - well why did not Labour pursue this when they were in power for all those years? Not enough people recognise that the 'previous' Labour was not 'Real' Labour. and

2. the number of 'stumbles' that we are seeing from key Labour politicians, especially, how they seem to keep using the 'same money' to fund a myriad of commitments, I believe erodes public confidence that the promises are credible and will be delivered upon and not just election campaign slogans
 
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Still nobody wants to talk about the lack of tax Murdoch has paid since 1987, but no, those who are definitely anti Corbyn resort to petty sarcasm rather than general discussion.
Do you mean News Corp or do you mean the Australian born naturalised American who lives in and pays tax in, the United States?
 
I'm asking about Murdoch and his influence because one of Labours policies is to go after people like Murdoch. How does that distract from the GE topic? I thought the whole point in this thread is to cover policies, unearth as much as you can and hopefully help others who maybe don't know which way to vote.

Unfortunately others use it as a dick waving contest
Again you're confusing the individual and the corporation.
 
Do you mean News Corp or do you mean the Australian born naturalised American who lives in and pays tax in, the United States?
You're making a distinction between the man and the company? He's had government in thrall to him since 1979 and News Corp pays an average of just over 1.2% corporation tax. The man is an odious hypocrite who should ensure his companies pay their dues.
 
The momentum mob running Labour can't stand the centrist view. They think everyone who does not support an outright socialist government is a right wing, racist, Tory, tax dodging war mongerer. The reality is as in my personal situation, Corbyn threatens defence and therefore my job, he will hit my taxes and his cronies will bankrupt the country.

He will go to town on peoples tax, hurt any company wanting to make money and therefore job creation and investment will collapse. Everyone will end up on strike, every pub will be virtually put out of business because he will bump up the minimum wage and we will become a country of people desperately hoping for work whilst struggling to prop up the biggest group of money sinks in history.

I am no fan of the Tories so far, I think they have been very weak and their machine has dressed it up so far very well. I would still vote for a Blair type government tomorrow but that option is not on the table. At the minute it looks a bit bleak but I would keep the status quo just to get these morons out of Labour.

This is my opinion totally -

This has got to be the worst election options available in my lifetime of voting - 5 of Corbyn's manifesto hurt me and my family personally and I ain't no big fan of May. It ends up voting for the lesser of the 2 evils or I may just look at the Lib Dems
 
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im pretty sure most posters find it disgraceful that such an influential man can get away with that over the years and attempt tosway public opinion.
I'd be very interested to see how Murdoch represented Blair and let's not forget the slogan "New Labour" or Tories Reserves as they were also seen as.
I vote by policies and not by party. I really don't understand those who vote for a party cos granddaddy used to.

Thanks for the reply

Neither do I, and it's why I don't see Labour as the be all and end all these days, but there was a time when I was guilty of it as I'm sure many others would concur.

By the way, I think Murdoch's a **** and I'm voting Conservative. Albeit reluctantly.
 
For the first time i am not going to vote,i can't vote for my party whilst they are led by that muppet and the tories are still the nasty party to those of us in a vulnerable position
 
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