General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%
  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%

  • Total voters
    656
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And you're ignoring the fact that lower corporation tax rates have not resulted in investment either, which has impacted growth, as I've said about 3 times now. Companies are hoarding cash so if they won't invest it, the government may as well take it off them via increased tax rates and do that for them. Or it can give them the choice by incentivising investment via tax reliefs.

Then Labour come along, push up tax to 26% but give 100% relief for specified investment. So Company A still make £100m but invest £20m of that and pay 26% on £80m. That's a fraction less tax than they were paying under this government but that investment generates growth, which generates higher tax revenues.
But thats not in the Labour Party manifesto.
The money is assigned to pay for stuff - NOT to improve investment.
(Not that they will actually get that cash, firms will put up prices to compensate and make folks redundant and investment would totally dry up and the economy would go into recession)
Your policy would be reasonably good at amuch lower level of increase - say 2.5% - Invest or lose the profit.
 
It's a shame we don't currently have some weapons inspectors who enforce global legislation to ensure nobody else makes any.
Trouble is the weapons inspectors would have to be backed by nuclear weapons to be able to force countries not to manufacture nuclear weapons.
 
You have a gun, someone who hates you has a gun. You threaten to shoot him in anger. The other says do that and i'll shoot you back. Ask yourself is it worth shooting the guy?

/QUOTE]

The winner of the next world war is the one who gets the first strike in. So i'd shoot him. lol (I know the nuclear deterrent is hidden under the ice cap , unlike his gun)
 
I appreciate your well thought out reply but I think it's folly. We will not be attacked by nuclear weapons before 2022.

Then he should have put it in the manifesto as an honest politician

People of Great Britain vote for me on the basis that we will not have a deterrent until I die or am voted out.
 
because she gets the platform to just answer with her points of view, rather than having an argument and have the debate turn into mud-slinging. Much rather her and Corbyn just be able to put their views across rather than just bitch at each other.
I agre. A much better format.
 
Well she is being slagged off. Peggy Blue was at it straight away to use it as a political point he/she has. I chose to ask how anyone knows their circumstances.


So someone else slagged her off but not me, yet you said 'I should carry on slagging her off then if it makes me feel better' but go on then I'll give it a go, if someone is on nearly 30k a year and has to use food banks they're fucking stupid and feckless irrespective of there job
 
I appreciate your well thought out reply but I think it's folly. We will not be attacked by nuclear weapons before 2022.
No, we won't, hopefully. But the issue isn't about nuclear weapons threats, it's about the potential leader of the country with a history of not just nuclear disarmament (a noble cause) but a history of abstaining from using them under threat of a nuclear exchange. North Korea manages to nuke the US, the US wants NATO to respond, China gets pissed, Russia gets pissed and everyone enters a mexican standoff.

It's a question about leadership not about whether he prefers nuclear disarmament to renewing Trident. Is he prepared to do what is expected in this age of nuclear weapons to protect the citizens by adopting the method of M.A.D. which has done well to prevent all out global thermonuclear war. We're thankfully in an age where world leaders and their generals no longer push the concept that a nuclear war can be 'won', but that still does not mean they also would not tell any other hostile entity that "use any force against us, ANY force nuclear or otherwise, and we will obliterate you".

Why is it so hard for him to say "yes, I would, though I hope I never have to and will work to ensure it never becomes a possibility and the threat of nuclear war is eradicated forever".
 
She is looking more and more like a beaten woman. Can see us getting fucked over on Brexit with her leading negotiations. Corbyn looking more and more credible by the day. Could be close this.
 
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