General Election June 8th

[hilts]

Most of my summer holidays were spend riding my bike or playing cricket in the park. I did go on ATC camp a couple of times. Closest thing to a "family holiday" we had. People moaning about poverty these days use the statistics incorrectly to try to paint a picture of Dickensian squaller which is just not the case.

Relative poverty is a nonsense but it does give the left something to moan about. That and the nurses using food banks and giving patients head to pay the leccy.

Only teachers have a bigger hard luck story with their 168 hour week which means they get paid less than the minimum wage.

Let's face it with these Chad like living standards no wonder these lost souls may forgive a terrorist supporter

 

[Damocles]

An absolutely ludicrous point of view. Everyone would have to have the same income in your world view to avoid poverty, utterly ludicrous.

Relative poverty takes the median household income of a nation then defines "at risk from poverty" at 60% of that. Because poverty is in itself relative to other people - if everybody in the world has 0 potato and you have 1 potato then you are King of the Potato People. To give a more pointed example, how does inflation work in your idea of absolute poverty?

Defining poverty by some global and absolute limit is helpful data in some circumstances but not helpful when we're talking about what poverty actually is in the UK.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Another worthless contribution. Well done.

 

[Damocles]

Same mate.

Poverty in the country I reside in would literally mean not being able to own a yacht.

Luckily I've dug myself out of it.

Relative poverty in the UAE is equivalent to £500 a month total household income.

You're not just wrong on this but you're making the type of wrong posts that a man like you shouldn't be making.

 

[hilts]

A term made up in social science that the left use for political gain. Utter horseshit.

 

[Damocles]

A term made up in social science that the left use for political gain. Utter horseshit.

Unlike all those other terms in science that aren't made up, presumably.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Another worthless contribution. Well done.

You really are a reactionary dullard. I was being nice, but it seems I'll have to go back to poking you with a stick for evidence of sentient life.

 

[hilts]

Unlike all those other terms in science that aren't made up, presumably.

Foolish boy every word was made up at some point. The mistake in this phrase is using the word poverty within it as the word has connotations that won't be disregarded.

Walk round Gorton and ask people their opinions on the growing gap between rich and poor and they will answer quite happily, you may even get a free cuppa. Ask them how they feel living in relative poverty and you would soon be picking up your teeth.

The way it has been used in this thread shows it isn't a great term but that won't stop a couple of lefties trying to make a political point out of it.

 

[MellowJoe]

swp - I like the 'luckily' part.. shows understanding.
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Winners create losers, so in that part of the game it's relative. Absolute/relative.. lots of confusion around those two.. If poverty has a threshold for basic needs.. food, roof, bed, what have you, a comfortable enough life, then it's easily point-at-able. If we want to use the word to show the disparity between the haves and have nots, then you move into hazy territory.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Foolish boy every word was made up at some point. The mistake in this phrase is using the word poverty within it as the word has connotations that won't be disregarded.

Walk round Gorton and ask people their opinions on the growing gap between rich and poor and they will answer quite happily, you may even get a free cuppa. Ask them how they feel living in relative poverty and you would soon be picking up your teeth.

The way it has been used in this thread shows it isn't a great term but that won't stop a couple of lefties trying to make a political point out of it.

Spot on, the right don't make political points with it, they simply ignore it, and if you do hold their feet to fire, they argue about the terms of reference in order to belittle it, not unlike you're doing now.