General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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jonmcity said:
Well he has the intelligence of one. Also looks a little like one. At least the NHS would be in safe hands I suppose.

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That £350m will go into the NHS, but not before they give the NHS to their mates to run. Then they will throw shed loads of money at it.
 
Ah yes privatisation will sort out everything!

"I see no reason why fares should increase faster under the new system than they do under the present nationalised industry structure," Transport Secretary John MacGregor told the House of Commons in February 1993. "In many cases, they will be more flexible and will be reduced."

So two decades on, what has happened?

Since the last set of British Rail fares were published in June 1995, inflation measured by the Retail Prices Index (RPI) has been 66%. Figures show a huge variation in fares since privatisation. A single from London to Manchester has gone up by 208%, up from £50 in 1995 to £154 today. That is more than three times the rate of inflation.
 
Households across the UK could save £250 each on their electricity, gas and water bills and train fares if the services were publicly financed.

- Private electricity, gas, water and rail companies pay out £12bn a year to investors and shareholders in interest and dividends.

- In total, cheaper government borrowing rates could save the UK public £6.5bn: £4.2bn on energy, £2bn on water and £352m on rail.
 
Think I'll write to Mother Theresa and ask if I can be her 'mate.' Apparently, if you're a mate of the Tories
they give you free stuff, like the NHS and all that shit, well once I'm one of their mates I bagsy Guy's Hospital,
must be worth a fortune that. The bloke next door to me has said he's voting Tory, I'm going to ask him if he's
mates with them, I've seen the grasping capitalist bastard driving an almost new Peugeot 3008, that must have
come from when they last privatised something. Bloke and his Mrs opposite mustn't be mates with them, they've
got a shagged out Focus like me, must have voted Labour, they mustn't have any mates.
 
jonmcity said:
Households across the UK could save £250 each on their electricity, gas and water bills and train fares if the services were publicly financed.

- Private electricity, gas, water and rail companies pay out £12bn a year to investors and shareholders in interest and dividends.

- In total, cheaper government borrowing rates could save the UK public £6.5bn: £4.2bn on energy, £2bn on water and £352m on rail.
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Sure, everything the government runs, always goes well doesn't it.

They cannot run a piss up in a brewery mate. Sorry to burst your bubble. And where's the money coming from to buy-back these businesses? It would cost tens if not hundreds of billions. Wouldn't you rather spend that money on things like schools and the NHS, instead of wasting it on ideological nonsense.

BTW, who are these evil "investors and shareholders" of whom you speak? Are they aliens from Mars? Or are they British people will ISAs and a bit of savings, and things like your pension. It's the latter, mate.
 
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Chippy_boy said:
Sure, everything the government runs, always goes well doesn't it.

They cannot run a piss up in a brewery mate. Sorry to burst your bubble. And where's the money coming from to buy-back these businesses? It would cost tens if not hundreds of billions. Wouldn't you rather spend that money on things like schools and the NHS, instead of wasting it on ideological nonsense.
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Are you seriously saying that privatisation has been a success for the general public? Is the east cost train line run any worse than the west coast?
£12 billion to shareholders, these are the only beneficiaries.
 
mayo31 said:
I will just comment on the 3 parts I have highlighted.

1. The deficit is still under this govt spiralling out of control. They have failed regardless of anyone else.

2. It has not been a hard road for all. Some have lost or paid more. Efficiency or austerity, call it what you like has hurt certain people harder. Namely those with less in the first place.

3. Who was to blame for the real economy being in a mess. Those who gambled on markets. Which then resulted in the tax payer bail outs which resulted in point 2.

At least accept some of the above if you do care.

Who can solve it or make it better is now the argument for tomorrow to decide.

Last point, we all know you are a tory. No need to remind us every day.
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You don't know the difference between debt and deficit. Your opinion is irrelevant.
 
Chippy_boy said:
What because of their commitment to, and increased spending on the NHS? You say some strange and very silly things.
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There will be no Nurses unless we start paying them correctly, especially as they want to stop EU Nurses filling the gap. The increased needs of the elderly, due to inept social care in the community means that the NHS will start to fail. No doubt the excuse to privatise it, as shareholders will run it more efficiently, just like the other privatised utilities. Not.
 
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