General Election June 8th

[mackenzie]

Whatever anyone thinks about Corbyn personally, it's hard to deny he isn't hitting the right note with many people out there. If the country is doing so well why is that?
It's because it's a travesty;people AREN'T doing well with regards to the public services, with PROPER jobs, with education, with the NHS etc etc
It's fucking crumbling around us yet, apparently, it's ok because more and more people are in work (shit zero hours contracts and companies that offer self employment in order to get out of their obligations re employee rights).
Its got to stop. These twats are playing us as fools.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I'm not a Diane Abbott fan and can't see her getting a great office of state (in the unlikely event of an absolute Labour majority). But (I can't access the clip) is the latest thing that in an interview she mentioned a report on how to improve anti-terrorism measures in London but couldn't recall the detailed proposals of the report, a report that the government itself has not even acknowledged?

It wasn't that she couldn't recall the details of the report; it was the way that she did it.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Don't think I'm voting. What's the point? Nothing changes weather its conservatives or labour. Both May and Corbyn aren't worthy to be PM. If I change my mind on voting tomorrow I will be voting the tories, all this talk about corbyn wanting to be friends with terrorist makes me uneasy.

 

[Machiavelli]

Don't think I'm voting. What's the point? Nothing changes weather its conservatives or labour. Both May and Corbyn aren't worthy to be PM. If I change my mind on voting tomorrow I will be voting the tories, all this talk about corbyn wanting to be friends with terrorist makes me uneasy.

We are friends with terrorists in one form or another.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Anyone watching his rally in Birmingham? What a hero, extremely inspirational. I hope for all of society he wins on Thursday.

 

[mcfc1632]

You're just moving the goalposts now, so is there even any point continuing as you've clearly made your mind up? Whether you or anybody else likes it or not, when Corbyn met Adams and McGuiness they were already elected members of Sinn Fein. So in his eyes he wasn't meeting or discussing with the IRA but a political group that represented the Republican movement. He saw the opportunity for peace way before our own Govt, in fact had the witch decided to engage in discussion earlier then maybe hundreds if not thousands of lives would have been saved, who knows? But Corbyn has always condemned the actions of the IRA in killing innocent civilians, including in Westminster in 1994. Was he sympathetic to the Republican movement - sure, as should any human being in reality but that doesn't mean he ever accepted or condoned their actions. And he's absolutely on the money when he says sometimes in negotiations you have to talk to people whose actions you do not agree with. If others hadn't eventually come to that solution who knows what would be happening there now. As for who he met from the Unionists, well surely Paisley and and Ervine would be a damn good starting point if you were after one thing - peace!!

I wish people would clear up their position on Corbyn though. Either he's a terrorist supporter or he's too placid to protect his own civilians because being both is really difficult to comprehend.

Anyway, yet again we're talking about IRA instead of manifestos and policies, the Cons would be delighted with this thread.

I think that you are the one that has: "............clearly made your mind up?"

You say "................in his eyes he wasn't meeting or discussing with the IRA but a political group............"

That is, IMO, a shameful 'dressing up' of reality - you cannot really believe it, you must just be continuing your denial.

But OK - let's give it a go - so the logic of your stance here is that his actions were in fact legitimate because he was interacting with 'politicians' - have I got that right?

OK, so when he stood observing a minute's silence for the death of 8 IRA terrorists - how does that square with your reengineering of reality? Did he not know that they were terrorists?

Did he not realise that the 8 IRA members killed were notorious for targeting and murdering British civilian labourers carrying out building work on NI police stations??

Did nobody tell him that they were actually killed during one of their many gun and bomb attacks on these installations??

How does that square with your claim: "................that doesn't mean he ever accepted or condoned their (the IRA's) actions."

 

[@BluePhil8]

Don't think I'm voting. What's the point? Nothing changes weather its conservatives or labour. Both May and Corbyn aren't worthy to be PM. If I change my mind on voting tomorrow I will be voting the tories, all this talk about corbyn wanting to be friends with terrorist makes me uneasy.

Still vote just spoil your ballot.

 

[hilts]

I think that you are the one that has: "............clearly made your mind up?"

You say "................in his eyes he wasn't meeting or discussing with the IRA but a political group............"

That is, IMO, a shameful 'dressing up' of reality - you cannot really believe it, you must just be continuing your denial.

But OK - let's give it a go - so the logic of your stance here is that his actions were in fact legitimate because he was interacting with 'politicians' - have I got that right?

OK, so when he stood observing a minute's silence for the death of 8 IRA terrorists - how does that square with your reengineering of reality? Did he not know that they were terrorists?

Did he not realise that the 8 IRA members killed were notorious for targeting and murdering British civilian labourers carrying out building work on NI police stations??

Did nobody tell him that they were actually killed during one of their many gun and bomb attacks on these installations??

How does that square with your claim: "................that doesn't mean he ever accepted or condoned their (the IRA's) actions."

Yeh but he doesn't like the Tories so it's okay innit

 

[blueparrot]

Still vote just spoil your ballot.

Why completely pointless, some anonymous counter throws it away, thinks what a dick, and nobody could care less.

 

[mcfc1632]

Me too actually haha. Good video.

Do you know what minute it was? I could not bring myself to listen past the first couple