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Tragic meat van guy
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Jesus wept.
How long do I have to wait to see Vitor destroy Weidman???
How long do I have to wait to see Vitor destroy Weidman???
Tragic meat van guy said:Jesus wept.
How long do I have to wait to see Vitor destroy Weidman???
....until Weidman is fit and Testosterone replacement is legal again for Vitor!
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argyle said:Tragic meat van guy said:Jesus wept.
How long do I have to wait to see Vitor destroy Weidman???
....until Weidman is fit and Testosterone replacement is legal again for Vitor!
I do find it amusing that people still root for Vitor after his testosterone replacement.
Tragic meat van guy
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MCFC-alan88 said:argyle said:Tragic meat van guy said:Jesus wept.
How long do I have to wait to see Vitor destroy Weidman???
....until Weidman is fit and Testosterone replacement is legal again for Vitor!
I do find it amusing that people still root for Vitor after his testosterone replacement.
Not exactly rooting for Vitor, just cannot stand Weidman
Tragic meat van guy said:MCFC-alan88 said:argyle said:....until Weidman is fit and Testosterone replacement is legal again for Vitor!
I do find it amusing that people still root for Vitor after his testosterone replacement.
Not exactly rooting for Vitor, just cannot stand Weidman
Apparently Vitor turned down a match against Lyoto Machida and Gegard Mousasi for an interim title belt.
Connor McGregors media scrum from last night
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/2/1/7958871/conor-mcgregor-ufc-183-scrum
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/2/1/7958871/conor-mcgregor-ufc-183-scrum
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MCFC-alan88 said:argyle said:Tragic meat van guy said:Jesus wept.
How long do I have to wait to see Vitor destroy Weidman???
....until Weidman is fit and Testosterone replacement is legal again for Vitor!
I do find it amusing that people still root for Vitor after his testosterone replacement.
It's more amusing that there are MMA fans who have a problem with PED's. The reason we watch MMA is because of fighters on PED's. Even Royce Gracie got busted! The fight the apparently saved the UFC (Griffin vs Bonnar) had two fighters who used PED's. The biggest draw in the history of the sport is Brock Lesnar! Your favourite fighter is probably on PEDs and even if he isn't has almost certainly used them in the past. I could take HGH now and pass a test at 8am in the morning. Usain Bolt has never failed a drugs test and has taken hundreds.
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It's time MMA fans woke up to reality.
Most organisations have limited to no decent testing. Therefore most fighters outside of the UFC use PED's. Hence to compete you need to use PED's. You can't then go into by far the most competitive organisation in MMA and suddenly stop taking them! Look how badly it effected the Pride fighters by having to cycle off a few weeks earlier, rather than taking them right up to fight night. Imagine what it would be like if they couldn't take the full stop. You think Wand, Shogun and Cro Cop look shadows of their former selves since they'd been in the UFC, the imagine what they'd have been like had random testing always been done!
Fans need to get the heads around the idea that everyone is on it. College wrestling is rife with PED's. So is BJJ. So it isn't just through previous MMA careers they get into taking them.
It's unrealistic to expect these guys not to juice. Have you never wondered why guys under 6ft tall have so much trouble cutting to just 185 or even 205, despite being ripped?
Next time Tim Kennedy goes on another anti PED rant, try and work out what his FFMI is and see if it computes with a natural fighter (Kennedy is nowhere near the 5ft 11" he claims to be.)
Most organisations have limited to no decent testing. Therefore most fighters outside of the UFC use PED's. Hence to compete you need to use PED's. You can't then go into by far the most competitive organisation in MMA and suddenly stop taking them! Look how badly it effected the Pride fighters by having to cycle off a few weeks earlier, rather than taking them right up to fight night. Imagine what it would be like if they couldn't take the full stop. You think Wand, Shogun and Cro Cop look shadows of their former selves since they'd been in the UFC, the imagine what they'd have been like had random testing always been done!
Fans need to get the heads around the idea that everyone is on it. College wrestling is rife with PED's. So is BJJ. So it isn't just through previous MMA careers they get into taking them.
It's unrealistic to expect these guys not to juice. Have you never wondered why guys under 6ft tall have so much trouble cutting to just 185 or even 205, despite being ripped?
Next time Tim Kennedy goes on another anti PED rant, try and work out what his FFMI is and see if it computes with a natural fighter (Kennedy is nowhere near the 5ft 11" he claims to be.)
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Here is a list of Andersons opponents before he was busted himself, since he entered the UFC. I've bolded the one's who either used illegal substances or we know were using TRT:
Weidman
Bonnar
Sonnen
Okami
Belfort
Maia
Griffin
Leites
Cote
Irvin
Henderson
Franklin
Marquadt
Lutter
Leben
So out of 15 opponents 9 have either used TRT or something illegal. All of those fights happened before random out of competition testing. So it was incredibly difficult to get caught! Yet even despite it being tough, many guys still managed to get busted, despite knowing when they were going to be tested.
Weidman
Bonnar
Sonnen
Okami
Belfort
Maia
Griffin
Leites
Cote
Irvin
Henderson
Franklin
Marquadt
Lutter
Leben
So out of 15 opponents 9 have either used TRT or something illegal. All of those fights happened before random out of competition testing. So it was incredibly difficult to get caught! Yet even despite it being tough, many guys still managed to get busted, despite knowing when they were going to be tested.
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I dont think maia has ever tested positive.bluemiester said:Here is a list of Andersons opponents before he was busted himself, since he entered the UFC. I've bolded the one's who either used illegal substances or we know were using TRT:
Weidman
Bonnar
Sonnen
Okami
Belfort
Maia
Griffin
Leites
Cote
Irvin
Henderson
Franklin
Marquadt
Lutter
Leben
So out of 15 opponents 9 have either used TRT or something illegal. All of those fights happened before random out of competition testing. So it was incredibly difficult to get caught! Yet even despite it being tough, many guys still managed to get busted, despite knowing when they were going to be tested.
bluemiester
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Idontpullout said:I dont think maia has ever tested positive.bluemiester said:Here is a list of Andersons opponents before he was busted himself, since he entered the UFC. I've bolded the one's who either used illegal substances or we know were using TRT:
Weidman
Bonnar
Sonnen
Okami
Belfort
Maia
Griffin
Leites
Cote
Irvin
Henderson
Franklin
Marquadt
Lutter
Leben
So out of 15 opponents 9 have either used TRT or something illegal. All of those fights happened before random out of competition testing. So it was incredibly difficult to get caught! Yet even despite it being tough, many guys still managed to get busted, despite knowing when they were going to be tested.
Sorry, I didn't meant to highlight Maia. You are right he never tested positive.
Tragic meat van guy
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Got stuck in traffic and missed the press conference!
Any links to watch it please, cant find it anywhere.
I gather the gist is 4 yr ban for PED's and lawler v macdonald added to UFC 189
(GO LAWLER!)
Any links to watch it please, cant find it anywhere.
I gather the gist is 4 yr ban for PED's and lawler v macdonald added to UFC 189
(GO LAWLER!)