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Hmmm, yes he has talked about going to 170 and pre fight was saying he's stronger and fitter than ever because he wasn't drained. He may have learned his lesson now however don't doubt that and you are right he should go back down and fight guys he has a bigger reach than clearly diaz's size bothered him. Pretty sure his ground game has always been in question and last night just proved he's far from elite in that regard. He talked a big game, got carried away with himself and has been humbled. Imagine what Lawler would do to the guy? I imagine RDA is pretty pissed now
Its very clear he was never going to be stronger or fitter than he usually is and lets be honest he's saying he is no matter what. People are not taking into account that McGregor took on a fight with 11 days notice as well. He was preparing for a fight at 155 not 170. And going back to his ground game, i don't think we have seen what he has to offer yet, he was gassed at the end of round one because he was being too flamboyant. What you saw at the end of the Diaz fight was a very gassed and panicky McGregor obviously not stoping the inevitable attempt at a choke.
 
Really enjoyed those 2 fights - made up for Meisha, she comes across a great gal and very humble, she'll be a credit to the sport as champ.

As for Conor, I do love the guy, a proper entertainer, but I would be disappointed if he never got made to eat his words. Diaz isn't the most eloquent guy and is not half the class clown Conor is, but boy he can fight.
 
Conor's reaction to Diaz walking into post-event press conference:


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@Damocles why can't I get it to show?
 
Think Connor realised he bit off more than he could chew. What's interesting is he never once asked for a rematch, that tells you all you need to know. He should stick to the lower weight, he should easily dominate for a while there.
 
Think Connor realised he bit off more than he could chew. What's interesting is he never once asked for a rematch, that tells you all you need to know. He should stick to the lower weight, he should easily dominate for a while there.
I wondered why he hadn't asked for a rematch but i thought it wouldn't fit in with the humble in defeat things thats going on. He's just posted on his instagram and it says Nate i will see you again.
 
Never understood why people use a fighters pre-fight comments to bash them with after a loss. They almost never actually mean them and just say stupid over the top stuff to hype the fight.

The jump up in weight and size was too much for him. I congratulate Connor though on taking the risk that the majority of UFC fighters never take.

I see Jon Jones was making fun of the guy. This from the same guy that refused a different smaller opponent on day's notice when last night Connor took a bigger different opponent on 10 days notice.

Jons a great fighter but a bit of a pussy and if his fight gets canceled he wont go in with anyone without a full training behind him. Could you imagine if they all took that stance there be more pull outs all the time. I think Conor comes back strong and does a big show in Dublin be it a defence of his title and then back over to the US for the fight that should of happen. I think he will eventually move up the weight and might end up fighting Nate Diaz again but it wont be for a while I honestly think he will want to avenge the loss.
 
Well, finally got to watch this card after a busy day! I knew Meisha would win this fight. Her style was well matched for Holm. During the 4th I thought she just needed to time Holm's kick and take her down, so she surprised me by doing it off a punch!

If she wants to retain or maintain her title defences, she really can't be as studious of her opponents like this fight. She needs to be more aggressive and take her head off the centre line.

As for C Mcg? Well,how poor was his game plan?!! I thought he may have watched Diaz's previous losses to see why he lost. ND is really susceptible to leg kicks! That and body shots would have had him gassing like a 60 a day smoker! Instead McG wants to stand and bang. Reaching in for his shots instead of breaking down Diaz. Foolish.

Sure, he's shown he has the power to hurt someone at 170 and his loss comes of not moving his head (as I've previously discussed in the thread that he would get KO'd one day!), not lack of power. He can do that at 145/ 155, not 170. I wouldn't class C McG as 'cocky' as some have, but overconfident in his methods.

But, he would have lost to Dos Anjos, no doubt, using the same methodology.
 
It was a step too far no other champion would of taken that fight and that's the reason. Bigger guys take bigger punches, Connor had everything to lose and Diaz had nothing to lose. Pat on the back for Connor for taking a pointless fight and having the biggest balls out there.
 
It was a step too far no other champion would of taken that fight and that's the reason. Bigger guys take bigger punches, Connor had everything to lose and Diaz had nothing to lose. Pat on the back for Connor for taking a pointless fight and having the biggest balls out there.
Hardly pointless the amount of money he got.
 
Conor was absolutely destroying diaz, then got abit too cocky when he cut him, fair play tho, was a great fight
 
I don't get the talk of overconfidence, i think he was gassed from throwing them kicks that were absolutely nowhere near Diaz. Maybe he has overconfidence in his pre fight talk but its clear he didn't go into the Aldo fight overconfident as he waited for Aldo to throw the shot that Conor knew he could capitalise on.
 
I don't get the talk of overconfidence, i think he was gassed from throwing them kicks that were absolutely nowhere near Diaz. Maybe he has overconfidence in his pre fight talk but its clear he didn't go into the Aldo fight overconfident as he waited for Aldo to throw the shot that Conor knew he could capitalise on.
Your exactly right that Ido portal has been teaching him them redicalous kicks ,he kept missing and it knocked the energy out of him he looked lethargic as well eating to much food does that to ya, he's a lightweight fighter 155 is his best weight I feel 170 is over doing it
 
I don't get the talk of overconfidence, i think he was gassed from throwing them kicks that were absolutely nowhere near Diaz. Maybe he has overconfidence in his pre fight talk but its clear he didn't go into the Aldo fight overconfident as he waited for Aldo to throw the shot that Conor knew he could capitalise on.

Really don't understand this statement!

Kicks do not sap you any more than throwing punch combinations, if your technique is sound enough. Conor's was very sound.

He threw them to mix up his attack/ reach his opponent as he was missing with his punches far too much. Accumulative punches and being unaccustomed to the weight at match competition 'gassed' him.

I can see that and I'm critical of McG as a fighter as I'm not sold on him!
 
Well well well... Ego over-rules yet another fighter.

Connor's game plan was piss poor. Even I know to hit that belly of Nate's with my shin and I ain't no where near UFC level.
He just let his Ego over-rule any composition and instead wanted to bang... But fair play to the lad, he is entertainment.

As for this "hate" directed towards Connor, it's all hype, it's literally WWE level of bullshit during the pre-fight talk crap, but it gets the mass joe public hyped up.
Like kids in the playground shouting: fight! fight! fight!

From the clothes he wears, to what he says, everything - it's the persona that sells the product. This is his job!!!

Criticise the guy by all means when he's performing like this at his natural weight.
Wouldn't surprise me to see his Ego over-rule again and get caught (even by someone lighter who wouldn't bang as hard)

he'll be forgotten about in a few years. Real legends aren't forgotten about such as Anderson Silva who lost the other week as well...
 
he'll be forgotten about in a few years.

I disagree. You mentioned yourself how 'WWE' he is (I agree, it's like Wrestlemania with real fights), and he's really increased the profile of the whole UFC. I think as it becomes more and more mainstream, Conor will be remembered for really helping push it.
 
Always thought McG was a fraud. No way he 145 featherweight fighter, have you seen him on weigh ins looks like a 10 year heroin addict. Also not having this " gone up in weight difficult" He should be fighting at 155 - 170 that's his naturel weight. Diaz had a 2 inch reach over him McG had a 4 inch reach over Aldo. Not easy now is it Conner, and less said about his ground the better couldn't tap quick enough
 
I disagree. You mentioned yourself how 'WWE' he is (I agree, it's like Wrestlemania with real fights), and he's really increased the profile of the whole UFC. I think as it becomes more and more mainstream, Conor will be remembered for really helping push it.
Yes he'll be remembered by the mainstream public, but I was referring to the martial arts community and judging Connor on the martial arts achievements, not MMA.

People like Nate Diaz have Gracie black belts. To the Joe public who don't understand, this is like a world cup winners medal/Olympic gold, all "rolled" into one alongside a high-level masters degree at Oxford Uni.
Same with Anderson Silva.

They are higher level martial artists.

Mcgregor steps up to this level.... what happens? He's tapped out.
I'm not surprised one bit... shooting for a fucking guy who's a Gracie BB.... haha that's daft.

Mcgregor is like the McDonald's of the restaurant world.
Everybody knows about it, will eat it, even though it's shit.

Higher level martial artists are the Michelin star places.... and he ain't getting a Michelin star as he's primarily a showman.

I love the guy, he's brought so much attention to a sport I've followed for 20+yrs and competed in (at a very basic level)
I'll always respect the lad for helping do this.

Even my Nan knows what MMA is now and enjoys it because of this lad... but when I was doing it she disapproved and had all the usual negative views about "cagefighting"

I'm just waiting for the little kids now who have been dragged more into the dojo's from their parents who watch MMA, who've been doing MMA since they were born, to step up and then you'll see better levels of ability.

Some places have taken advantage of the sports popularity and become Jack of all trade gyms... avoid!
If parents are taking their kids to properly recognised BJJ dojo's with accreditation and then separately to say a Muay Thai gym for their standup game... this kid will be much more trained than a kid who's been to these MMA gyms which claim to teach everything all in one.

No no... it's like going to those buffet places which sell Italian, Indian and Chinese all in the same place... you'll get shit.

Michelin star baby.

We will see absolute superior martial artists from the UK soon.. and I can't wait to see it :)
Sadly, a lot of the mainstream public who like to just watch a playground pub type fight will find two guys escaping, attempting subs, transitioning for the whole fight.... it can be boring for people who don't understand.
 
Really don't understand this statement!

Kicks do not sap you any more than throwing punch combinations, if your technique is sound enough. Conor's was very sound.

He threw them to mix up his attack/ reach his opponent as he was missing with his punches far too much. Accumulative punches and being unaccustomed to the weight at match competition 'gassed' him.

I can see that and I'm critical of McG as a fighter as I'm not sold on him!
I am probably biased as i love his outrageous quotes. However like I've said before people are forgetting Conor had a full training camp for a 155 fight not a fight at 170. This is most likely why he was gassed however what I'm saying is that his kicks were not working yet he threw like 8-10 and this didn't help. And yeah i also agree with you that diaz did an excellent job at making Conor not find his range.
 

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