BlueMoonRisin’
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Blame Thatcher.
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mancityvstoke
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well that's what they want.........everyone working paying tax.What I’ve taken from reading this thread is most people could scrape it, unless you don’t have an other half then you’re fucked
Some win some lose.
Too true unfortunately. I rent and my biggest problem with it is it’s paying someone else’s bills. If all these flats were run by the state I would like to think the money would be put to good use, I don’t believe myself when I say it thoughwell that's what they want.........everyone working paying tax.
Some win some lose.
Lot of lads in the 80's couldnt afford to buy either.....houses doubled in price one year
Yeah maybe that was unfair of me to lump all older people in.
I mean to specifically have a go at those claiming it’s just a lifestyle choice and dead easy.
It’s been very tough for me and I’m well off and our house is a pretty standard 3 bed and not that expensive.
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I don't think most people think renting at high rents is a lifestyle choiceYeah maybe that was unfair of me to lump all older people in.
I mean to specifically have a go at those claiming it’s just a lifestyle choice and dead easy.
It’s been very tough for me and I’m well off and our house is a pretty standard 3 bed and not that expensive.
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Why are houses/rents so expensive?
Because there aren't enough houses (in the right places) to cope with the demand. So prices go up.
This is such basic capitalist logic that I don't understand why people can't grasp it.
Part of the problem is that a lot of rich and powerful people (including many sitting in Parliament) have a vested interest in keeping the price of houses high. And because we, as a country, have developed a culture of seeing houses as something to invest in rather than just to live in, a lot of quite ordinary people support this.
You can change this, but it won't be easy. The easiest and most obvious way is to build lots of social housing. And I mean lots. Politically, that won't be easy to sell. It upsets too many boats.
Because there aren't enough houses (in the right places) to cope with the demand. So prices go up.
This is such basic capitalist logic that I don't understand why people can't grasp it.
Part of the problem is that a lot of rich and powerful people (including many sitting in Parliament) have a vested interest in keeping the price of houses high. And because we, as a country, have developed a culture of seeing houses as something to invest in rather than just to live in, a lot of quite ordinary people support this.
You can change this, but it won't be easy. The easiest and most obvious way is to build lots of social housing. And I mean lots. Politically, that won't be easy to sell. It upsets too many boats.
I don't think most people think renting at high rents is a lifestyle choice
No but some seem think it’s a simple choice to rent rather than buy.
It really isn’t and anyone in the bottom 30%, I reckon it’s basically impossible in a lot of areas.
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The world has become greedy too............The rich want to keep rich.....Why are houses/rents so expensive?
Because there aren't enough houses (in the right places) to cope with the demand. So prices go up.
This is such basic capitalist logic that I don't understand why people can't grasp it.
Part of the problem is that a lot of rich and powerful people (including many sitting in Parliament) have a vested interest in keeping the price of houses high. And because we, as a country, have developed a culture of seeing houses as something to invest in rather than just to live in, a lot of quite ordinary people support this.
You can change this, but it won't be easy. The easiest and most obvious way is to build lots of social housing. And I mean lots. Politically, that won't be easy to sell. It upsets too many boats.
Sorting out plastic pollution, Global warming (unless there is money to be made), poor peoples accommodation problems and low wages isn't a priority.
BimboBob
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What about your other jobs?I’m a firefighter my take home pay after tax, pension is £1700 and that’s after 17 years of service, if I was staring out and having to save and rent I could probably if I didn’t do any socialising save maybe £350 max £500 a month that’s £11k in two years at a push, a couple yep could probably save double, like I said they would have to live in a not so good area to achieve this aim, chuck in a few kids and you’ve no chance. Like I said before it’s setting priorities and what you want to achieve, party and live the life nice car etc then you ain’t getting on the housing ladder.