I’m not sure how that deters someone aged, say, 21, from doing the same.
What was the failure to comply for?
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What was the failure to comply for?
Trevor Morley's Tache
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See edit.I’m not sure how that deters someone aged, say, 21, from doing the same.
What was the failure to comply for?
Trevor Morley's Tache
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He broke state curfew.Got you.
What did it state?
But did everyone else there?He broke state curfew.
Trevor Morley's Tache
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Whataboutism, much?But did everyone else there?
Nobody else there as far as I know shot three people and killed two.
Not really whataboutism, that’s not my motivation for these questions, I’m trying to ascertain why the prosecution didn’t bring these more minor charges.Whataboutism, much?
Nobody else there as far as I know shot three people and killed two.
Hmmm, maybe my simplistic approach on most things...I mean I must be simple for being a Liverpool supporter!!!!I agree many who aren't from here may see 2A as barbaric, and that's fine. It is what it is. There are things that happen over the pond that we shake our heads over too.
Some of that is just cultural differences in what we'd tolerate. But I'm not sure 2A can be said to be what's at issue here...
You've hit on it. Self Defense is what's at issue. And as funny as it might seem, the idea of self defense comes from Common Law. Meaning we originally got it from you guys long before we enshrined it in any of our Statutes. So really in a round about way, this is your thing :)
To continue my point above, not only did we get it from you, but a quick perusal of your laws suggests your self defense laws may even be broader than what you'd find in most Statutes in American States.
When you put it that way it sounds wrong: But allow me to run a hypothetical scenario by you and then tell me if you still feel the same way:
1. A 16 year old girl sneaks out at night in her Mom''s party clothes and makeup.
2. Goes to a rough bar in the neighborhood where she parties, drinks, flirts, makes out with a few men happily.
3. As she's about to leave for the night, one of the men who bought her drinks through out the night tries to get her to stay longer, but she declines as she stumbles out laughing and giggling joyfully after having had a great night.
4. As she stepped out onto the main road, that same guy is suddenly behind her jumps on her back and fights her to the ground. As she hits the ground he sits up for a second, smile on his face, this gives her enough time to retrieve a knife in her purse, and she sticks him in the neck with the knife.He collapsses on top of her and it took her a while to drags herself out from underneath him before 911 ( oe is that 999 for you guys?)
5. By the time the cops arrive, the man had died..Video Cameras from the parking lot sort of corroborates her claim.
The Girl's parents are called and she is sent home with them. And the case is closed.
Now here's the question for you:
Does it still feel wrong that someone has lost their life and no one has been held accountable?
And if it still does, who'd you suggest be held accountable for the loss of life?
Victim she may be but she is also a killer and therefore must be investigated. In my view she doesnt go home with parents but first to a hospital for her to examined and checked for any injuries and depending on what Docs say she is then invited to attend for further I/V
Self defence it may be but there must still be a trial or at least referred to the DPP
Questions to be asked as to why she would be carrying an offensive weapon in her bag on an "innocent" night out. Whats wrong with pepper spray, a good kick in the balls or a sharp talon into his eyeball...but then Im not on the receiving end.
The girl may have gone to the bar, but it is an environment that is "meant to be" safe, there is not an expectation that at that bar or on the way home she would be assaulted.
Trevor Morley's Tache
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They did. The judge dismissed both charges.Not really whataboutism, that’s not my motivation for these questions, I’m trying to ascertain why the prosecution didn’t bring these more minor charges.
It looks like there’s a state law on short barrelled weapons, ie a minor can posses something over 16 inches, which is the technicality which made the judge dismiss the charge.They did. The judge dismissed both charges.