George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

[purplenose]

Okay, let's play your game.

At any point, according to your definition, did Blake 'resist arrest' or not?

Too be fair nobody knows what went on before the video, with the guy who got shot in the back it is hard to see any possible justification for what then took place. Are they not equipped with tazers?

It looked pretty clear he was indeed resisting arrest and refusing to comply with the police....but fuck me if that happened in this country I would be out on the streets myself and I do not agree with the BLM movement in this country.

 

[Silva_Spell]

Okay, let's play your game.

At any point, according to your definition, did Blake 'resist arrest' or not?

You play games, I don't.

Of course he resisted arrest.

 

[Silva_Spell]

So, do you think it would stupid to base a judgement off an isolated video?

If you turned a corner and saw a bunch of guys kicking the shit out of some dude on the floor, you'd scream they were out of order, right?

But, let's say you arrived 5 mins earlier to see the same guy that was on the floor attempting a sexual assault on a female who was then chased and had the shit kicked out of him by a bunch of guys, do you think you who would have screamed they were out of order or do you think you had greater context to the situation...?

Take your time, amigo...

It would be stupid to make a final judgement of the whole event based on an isolated video (it'd be even more stupid to riot based on an isolated video)

Of course, being able to view everything that had gone on would give full context. I was aware that I didn't have 100% knowledge of the Rittenhouse series of events and that's why I said something like "I don't know what has gone on beforehand but what we see in the video alone is a pretty clear case of self defense"

I love your arrogance btw. It's akin to making the first move in a game of chess and leaning back in your chair and proclaiming "checkmate"

 

[Bigga]

You play games, I don't.

Of course he resisted arrest.

So, you agree that Blake, throughout the interaction you see according to your definition, resists arrest?

That would include fighting with police as you've agreed.

So, if Blake was shot in the process of arrest, that would include 'resisting arrest' as that would cited in the report,

That IS correct according to your definition?

 

[Bigga]

It would be stupid to make a final judgement of the whole event based on an isolated video (it'd be even more stupid to riot based on an isolated video)

Of course, being able to view everything that had gone on would give full context. I was aware that I didn't have 100% knowledge of the Rittenhouse series of events and that's why I said something like "I don't know what has gone on beforehand but what we see in the video alone is a pretty clear case of self defense"

I love your arrogance btw. It's akin to making the first move in a game of chess and leaning back in your chair and proclaiming "checkmate"

Well, it WOULD be 'checkmate' as you constantly let yourself be checkmated through stupidity of judgement.

Nobody so dumb would base killing someone off an isolated video be 'self defence'! If he'd have been attacked by knives, bricks weapons that might be a different position, but I didn't see any of that.

Let me know if you did...

 

[mat]

You know one of the sentences that pissing me off when discussing BLM.

"Their ancestors had a lot worse. They should be grateful."


It's like there's a willful blindness toward the inequality. I have my subconscious bias from my upbringing and experience and I will educate myself further and support the fight for equality. Some people are protecting their own little molehills should learn that being unites together we get the whole fucking mountain range together if we stand up to the people who deliberately divide and rule us to protect their own selfish agendas.

 

[Silva_Spell]

So, you agree that Blake, throughout the interaction you see according to your definition, resists arrest?

That would include fighting with police as you've agreed.

So, if Blake was shot in the process of arrest, that would include 'resisting arrest' as that would cited in the report,

That IS correct according to your definition?

This little path you're trying to lead me down is only going to end with me repeating what I said right at the beginning but ok let's continue...

The report will state that he resisted arrest, yes.

 

[Silva_Spell]

You know one of the sentences that pissing me off when discussing BLM.

"Their ancestors had a lot worse. They should be grateful."


It's like there's a willful blindness toward the inequality. I have my subconscious bias from my upbringing and experience and I will educate myself further and support the fight for equality. Some people are protecting their own little molehills should learn that being unites together we get the whole fucking mountain range together if we stand up to the people who deliberately divide and rule us to protect their own selfish agendas.

Who are you going to go to for this education?

 

[Silva_Spell]

Well, it WOULD be 'checkmate' as you constantly let yourself be checkmated through stupidity of judgement.

Nobody so dumb would base killing someone off an isolated video be 'self defence'! If he'd have been attacked by knives, bricks weapons that might be a different position, but I didn't see any of that.

Let me know if you did...

I said what I said (you really ought to learn to argue against what people say)

1. He was attacked by someone with a skateboard
2. He was lunged at by a man with a handgun
3. He had a rifle on him which could be used against him
4. People have fists and feet, it's not on him to hope that he wakes up

If he had aggressed against someone beforehand it would change the nature of the video in question and that's why I gave the caveats I did.

 

[Bigga]

This little path you're trying to lead me down is only going to end with me repeating what I said right at the beginning but ok let's continue...

The report will state that he resisted arrest, yes.

The above video shows civilian actively arguing against the police aggressively. The civilian gets in vehicle and officer does not know if weapons are in the car. According to your definition he is "resisting arrest". Should the police have shot him for non-compliance?




The above video shows civilian not crumbling to his knees at first attack nor falling at immediate second aggressive attack. This is non-compliance. Should the police have shot him according to your opinion on "resisting arrest"?

All these actions fall within your remit of "resisting arrest", after all.

Have the police failed at their jobs?