Glass Tunnel now taking shape

BJL_City said:
so be a local football club and multi national business, not just the latter. You can make plenty of money without having to damage the wallets of the locals, and continually shift them out of their seats and price them out for good.
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I don't like the 2 percent price increase but I stopped worrying when I saw the Club spend £200 mil on quality players.
 
BJL_City said:
so be a local football club and multi national business, not just the latter. You can make plenty of money without having to damage the wallets of the locals, and continually shift them out of their seats and price them out for good.
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What do you suggest?
Let's all hear your proposals for the club to consider.
Two tier pricing for everyone with a Manc post code ?
Rebates if you come from Ardwick ?
Surcharge if you're from Cheshire ?
All ears BJ !!
 
CrownPointBlue said:
What do you suggest?
Let's all hear your proposals for the club to consider.
Two tier pricing for everyone with a Manc post code ?
Rebates if you come from Ardwick ?
Surcharge if you're from Cheshire ?
All ears BJ !!
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nope, use the tiny proportion of income needed that you've gained from being a global brand and entity to freeze season ticket prices year on year, and be a proper "local club" and look after past and present season card holders, being much more personal and accommodating with fans so that they get fair relocations and looking after the core fanbase that hasn't seen the wealth or economic growth the rest of the club has experienced.

Look after your own. There was no need for prices to go up at any point 2bh, there was no need to unceremoniously dump people out of long held seats, there was no need for any ST holder to have to give up their card for cost. There was no need for £45/50/60 home match tickets and no need to introduce vast swathes of corporate hospitality they simply cannot sell. At no point have they engaged, at no point have they fulfilled their promises to the fanbase and at no point have they acted any differently to the lot just outside the city, against whom they should be the complete opposite in behaviour because we should hold ourselves to a higher standard.

The club is not a local club to its local fanbase anymore, it is purely a global entity that a portion of the old fanbase can still afford to follow, for now.
 
BJL_City said:
nope, use the tiny proportion of income needed that you've gained from being a global brand and entity to freeze season ticket prices year on year, and be a proper "local club" and look after past and present season card holders, being much more personal and accommodating with fans so that they get fair relocations and looking after the core fanbase that hasn't seen the wealth or economic growth the rest of the club has experienced.

Look after your own. There was no need for prices to go up at any point 2bh, there was no need to unceremoniously dump people out of long held seats, there was no need for any ST holder to have to give up their card for cost. There was no need for £45/50/60 home match tickets and no need to introduce vast swathes of corporate hospitality they simply cannot sell. At no point have they engaged, at no point have they fulfilled their promises to the fanbase and at no point have they acted any differently to the lot just outside the city, against whom they should be the complete opposite in behaviour because we should hold ourselves to a higher standard.

The club is not a local club to its local fanbase anymore, it is purely a global entity that a portion of the old fanbase can still afford to follow, for now.
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Quality post mate i salute you
 
BJL_City said:
nope, use the tiny proportion of income needed that you've gained from being a global brand and entity to freeze season ticket prices year on year, and be a proper "local club" and look after past and present season card holders, being much more personal and accommodating with fans so that they get fair relocations and looking after the core fanbase that hasn't seen the wealth or economic growth the rest of the club has experienced.

Look after your own. There was no need for prices to go up at any point 2bh, there was no need to unceremoniously dump people out of long held seats, there was no need for any ST holder to have to give up their card for cost. There was no need for £45/50/60 home match tickets and no need to introduce vast swathes of corporate hospitality they simply cannot sell. At no point have they engaged, at no point have they fulfilled their promises to the fanbase and at no point have they acted any differently to the lot just outside the city, against whom they should be the complete opposite in behaviour because we should hold ourselves to a higher standard.

The club is not a local club to its local fanbase anymore, it is purely a global entity that a portion of the old fanbase can still afford to follow, for now.
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I'd agree with a lot of that. The corporate seats are a joke, nearly as many ermpty seats as the Family Stand.
 
its all part of a bigger picture. we need the corporate money to keep prices for the ordinary fans down. city have done better than any other club who have been through what we have. look at united, their real fans have been pushed out more than ours have, same with the london clubs. better a glass tunnel and some corporate sections in an expanded ground with cheaper options available than whats happened at other clubs.
 
BarrowBlue52 said:
its all part of a bigger picture. we need the corporate money to keep prices for the ordinary fans down. city have done better than any other club who have been through what we have. look at united, their real fans have been pushed out more than ours have, same with the london clubs. better a glass tunnel and some corporate sections in an expanded ground with cheaper options available than whats happened at other clubs.
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There's two things wrong with this. First, if they need to have the corporate areas to keep prices down, then why did they put them up this season? Second, we make great play of the cheaper season tickets but our average price has been proven to be one of the highest, including the London clubs.
 
BarrowBlue52 said:
its all part of a bigger picture. we need the corporate money to keep prices for the ordinary fans down. city have done better than any other club who have been through what we have. look at united, their real fans have been pushed out more than ours have, same with the london clubs. better a glass tunnel and some corporate sections in an expanded ground with cheaper options available than whats happened at other clubs.
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no we don't.
 
My biggest gripe is that away match tickets go with these packages. These fans/customers don't deserve them. The fact that you can afford 18k for a Tunnel package should no give them the right to get an away ticket in-front of City fans who have been to away matches for years, and have put their money, time and effort into doing that. It would have been just as easy for City to offer the Tunnel package without Away tickets included. Nobody would have really bothered. I do 't think that would have been a game changer for the type of City fan who is buying a Tunnel package. We will never find out, but I dread to think how many away tickets are being put aside for Tunnel Club members. Add to that more and more branches are being created, etc. Now and in years to come away tickets will be harder and harder to get, until only the most loyal and wealthy* City fans can get one.
 
jrb said:
My biggest gripe is that away match tickets go with these packages. These fans/customers don't deserve them. The fact that you can afford 18k for a Tunnel package should no give them the right to get an away ticket in-front of City fans who have been to away matches for years, and have put their money, time and effort into doing that. It would have been just as easy for City to offer the Tunnel package without Away tickets included. Nobody would have really bothered. I do 't think that would have been a game changer for the type of City fan who is buying a Tunnel package. We will never find out, but I dread to think how many away tickets are being put aside for Tunnel Club members. Add to that more and more branches are being created, etc. Now and in years to come away tickets will be harder and harder to get, until only the most loyal and wealthy* City fans can get one.
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Spot on.
 
malg said:
I'd agree with a lot of that. The corporate seats are a joke, nearly as many ermpty seats as the Family Stand.
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Have the two middle tier corporate seats in the CB and west stands ever been full?, you would think that there would be somebody in this area of the club who would understand that we don't have the kind of supporter demographic to fill these sections.
 
jrb said:
My biggest gripe is that away match tickets go with these packages. These fans/customers don't deserve them. The fact that you can afford 18k for a Tunnel package should no give them the right to get an away ticket in-front of City fans who have been to away matches for years, and have put their money, time and effort into doing that. It would have been just as easy for City to offer the Tunnel package without Away tickets included. Nobody would have really bothered. I do 't think that would have been a game changer for the type of City fan who is buying a Tunnel package. We will never find out, but I dread to think how many away tickets are being put aside for Tunnel Club members. Add to that more and more branches are being created, etc. Now and in years to come away tickets will be harder and harder to get, until only the most loyal and wealthy* City fans can get one.
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Whilst I completely agree with your suggestion that away tickets should not be included (though my understanding is that the corporates are given an allocation of 10% of any away allocation and it is already the case that every single away game is hugely oversubscribed by the corporates), the club are just trying to generate profit from whatever source they can, in order to meet FFP. If the Sheik had his way, he would stick up two fingers to FFP and just spend £300m every season on new players (remember when City offered Kaka £500k per week?). I think that you will find that away tickets are not automatically included but that for the 10% allocation, the Tunnel Club members will have first shout, before they are offered to the next corporate tier below, etc, etc.
But the reality is that for every single City away game, it is very easy to buy tickets in the away end from the touts/ticket websites. For example for the Brighton away game. there are currently 50+ tickets available in the away end, on just one website. Not sure who is selling them, but I doubt it will be the corporates.
Away tickets are always going to be a very rare commodity. Fans who have been clocking up masses of points, showing amazing loyalty, are forever going to be 10%/20% below the threshold for all the major away games because of those fans who have been clocking up those points for even longer.
I was one of those long standing season ticket holders that would never have enough points to guarantee tickets for the big away games, but I was lucky enough to afford the Seasonal Hospitality packages, when they were first launched in 2010, which were the padded executive seats, no lounge but did get me on the list for away ticket waiting list. When the exec seat packages started, it was about £900 per season and included all Premier League Home games and 1 Cup home game. All CL games were extra. I did not get always get the away tickets automatically when I applied, but most of the time. I had that facility for about 5 years, then had to give it up for a couple of season, due to work taking me overseas most of the year. Coming back this season, the same package, which now includes one of the lounges is £1,800. Still have to apply for away games and am told that the corporate away allocation is now massively oversubscribed, so it is only about 10% chance of getting any away tickets.
You are totally right that from now on, only the existing long term loyal fans will get their 90% share and the 10% left will go to the corporates. For everyone stuck in the middle, it will always be the case of having to go to the black market and try your luck.
 
bluesimon said:
Whilst I completely agree with your suggestion that away tickets should not be included (though my understanding is that the corporates are given an allocation of 10% of any away allocation and it is already the case that every single away game is hugely oversubscribed by the corporates), the club are just trying to generate profit from whatever source they can, in order to meet FFP. If the Sheik had his way, he would stick up two fingers to FFP and just spend £300m every season on new players (remember when City offered Kaka £500k per week?). I think that you will find that away tickets are not automatically included but that for the 10% allocation, the Tunnel Club members will have first shout, before they are offered to the next corporate tier below, etc, etc.
But the reality is that for every single City away game, it is very easy to buy tickets in the away end from the touts/ticket websites. For example for the Brighton away game. there are currently 50+ tickets available in the away end, on just one website. Not sure who is selling them, but I doubt it will be the corporates.
Away tickets are always going to be a very rare commodity. Fans who have been clocking up masses of points, showing amazing loyalty, are forever going to be 10%/20% below the threshold for all the major away games because of those fans who have been clocking up those points for even longer.
I was one of those long standing season ticket holders that would never have enough points to guarantee tickets for the big away games, but I was lucky enough to afford the Seasonal Hospitality packages, when they were first launched in 2010, which were the padded executive seats, no lounge but did get me on the list for away ticket waiting list. When the exec seat packages started, it was about £900 per season and included all Premier League Home games and 1 Cup home game. All CL games were extra. I did not get always get the away tickets automatically when I applied, but most of the time. I had that facility for about 5 years, then had to give it up for a couple of season, due to work taking me overseas most of the year. Coming back this season, the same package, which now includes one of the lounges is £1,800. Still have to apply for away games and am told that the corporate away allocation is now massively oversubscribed, so it is only about 10% chance of getting any away tickets.
You are totally right that from now on, only the existing long term loyal fans will get their 90% share and the 10% left will go to the corporates. For everyone stuck in the middle, it will always be the case of having to go to the black market and try your luck.
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If you think 90% of tickets go to non-corporate fans, you haven't done the sums.
 
philiph20 said:
Have the two middle tier corporate seats in the CB and west stands ever been full?, you would think that there would be somebody in this area of the club who would understand that we don't have the kind of supporter demographic to fill these sections.
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They're sold out nearly every single league game.

It's just that some business' own some of the seats and don't turn up to all the games.
 
Spoke to a guy last week said he was fitting the WiFi this week. Also said something about having it under the pitch for medical staff ?
 
I was sent some pictures of the new changing rooms last week. Its circular like the one at the training ground. They are a pampered lot
 
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