GMP: Two Teenagers Arrested In Anti-Terror Raid

[blueinsa]

How many times does it need to be said? Religion and culture means these Pakistani Muslim men dare not touch a hair on one of their own so go for white girls who not only they don't give a fuck about, their communities don't either.

If folk don't like that truth then tough.

So there is no evidence that Pakistani Muslim men abuse within their own families/communities then?

If there is abuse its kept very very quiet and within their own communities, again a cultural/religious issue due to women being seen as almost 2nd class citizens and afraid to speak out.

 

[DelToro]

How many times does it need to be said? Religion and culture means these Pakistani Muslim men dare not touch a hair on one of their own so go for white girls who not only they don't give a fuck about, their communities don't either.

If folk don't like that truth then tough.

So there is no evidence that Pakistani Muslim men abuse within their own families/communities then?

If there is abuse its kept very very quiet and within their own communities, again a cultural/religious issue due to women being seen as almost 2nd class citizens and afraid to speak out.

That's not what you posted.

There is plenty of evidence that there is abuse within the Pakistan Muslim community as indeed there is within the non Muslim communities.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24578426" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24578426</a>

 

[blueinsa]

So there is no evidence that Pakistani Muslim men abuse within their own families/communities then?

If there is abuse its kept very very quiet and within their own communities, again a cultural/religious issue due to women being seen as almost 2nd class citizens and afraid to speak out.

That's not what you posted.

There is plenty of evidence that there is abuse within the Pakistan Muslim community as indeed there is within the non Muslim communities.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24578426" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24578426</a>

Here you go.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-17996245" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-17996245</a>

 

[DelToro]

If there is abuse its kept very very quiet and within their own communities, again a cultural/religious issue due to women being seen as almost 2nd class citizens and afraid to speak out.

That's not what you posted.

There is plenty of evidence that there is abuse within the Pakistan Muslim community as indeed there is within the non Muslim communities.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24578426" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24578426</a>

Here you go.

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I am not challenging the fact that the Rochdale abusers targetted white girls.

I am challenging your assertion that "Religion and culture means these Pakistani Muslim men dare not touch a hair on one of their own."

Your assertion is not supported by evidence.

 

[blueinsa]

That's not what you posted.

There is plenty of evidence that there is abuse within the Pakistan Muslim community as indeed there is within the non Muslim communities.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24578426" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24578426</a>

Here you go.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-17996245" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-17996245</a>

I am not challenging the fact that the Rochdale abusers targetted white girls.

I am challenging your assertion that "Religion and culture means these Pakistani Muslim men dare not touch a hair on one of their own."

Your assertion is not supported by evidence.

Fair do and on reflection, my choice of words was incorrect. What is clear though is the refusal to accept these sort of crimes as having nothing to do with religion/culture not only allows the vast majority to continue getting away with the abuse, it allows the extremists a voice because its seen as the powers that be are too scared to tackle it.

Everyone in society has a duty to report child abuse and the law has to prosecute regardless.

 

[DelToro]

Here you go.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-17996245" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-17996245</a>

I am not challenging the fact that the Rochdale abusers targetted white girls.

I am challenging your assertion that "Religion and culture means these Pakistani Muslim men dare not touch a hair on one of their own."

Your assertion is not supported by evidence.

Fair do and on reflection, my choice of words was incorrect. What is clear though is the refusal to accept these sort of crimes as having nothing to do with religion/culture not only allows the vast majority to continue getting away with the abuse, it allows the extremists a voice because its seen as the powers that be are too scared to tackle it.

Everyone in society has a duty to report child abuse and the law has to prosecute regardless.

Yep - I can pretty much agree with most of that.

 

[worsleyweb]

I am not challenging the fact that the Rochdale abusers targetted white girls.

I am challenging your assertion that "Religion and culture means these Pakistani Muslim men dare not touch a hair on one of their own."

Your assertion is not supported by evidence.

Fair do and on reflection, my choice of words was incorrect. What is clear though is the refusal to accept these sort of crimes as having nothing to do with religion/culture not only allows the vast majority to continue getting away with the abuse, it allows the extremists a voice because its seen as the powers that be are too scared to tackle it.

Everyone in society has a duty to report child abuse and the law has to prosecute regardless.

Yep - I can pretty much agree with most of that.

So therefore you agree that Bigga was talking nonsense as well.

 

[blueinsa]

Fair do and on reflection, my choice of words was incorrect. What is clear though is the refusal to accept these sort of crimes as having nothing to do with religion/culture not only allows the vast majority to continue getting away with the abuse, it allows the extremists a voice because its seen as the powers that be are too scared to tackle it.

Everyone in society has a duty to report child abuse and the law has to prosecute regardless.

Yep - I can pretty much agree with most of that.

So therefore you agree that Bigga was talking nonsense as well.

"lessons will be learnt" is the cry every time yet the same old explanations for crimes like this are trotted out in the same way Councils and Police did and its infuriating the refusal to accept things for what they are and tackle them head on.

 

[101toMR]

How many times does it need to be said? Religion and culture means these Pakistani Muslim men dare not touch a hair on one of their own so go for white girls who not only they don't give a fuck about, their communities don't either.

If folk don't like that truth then tough.

So there is no evidence that Pakistani Muslim men abuse within their own families/communities then?

Until there is evidence that these men DID commit widespread abuse within their own communities then yes it is safe to say that these men sought out vulnerable young girls who were a different race and culture from themselves.
There have been a few reports of Pakistani children being abused but not on the scale of this epidemic. In short it's not wrong to say that these perverts and rapists dodged their own communities because they didn't want to actually harm their own communities.

 

[worsleyweb]

Read the statistics - 97% of victims were white.