Goal Line Tech or Off Side Tech:

[CBlue]

We don't need goal line technology...

Stadiums are flooded with video cameras.

Hahahahahahahahahaha - you're on a windup aren't you?

Aguero's overhead pass for Silva to score in the City v Swansea game at the Etihad this season - in or out of play?<br /><br />-- Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:59 pm --<br /><br />

There is no con to having a video ref for big decsions.

Another on a windup?

City score a perfectly good goal ruled out by a faceless official in the stands for any number of made up reasons (there was a push in the build up, a forward impedes a defender off the ball...) & you see no harm in this? Define a big decision.

 

[CBlue]

It should be a VIDEO REF!

The Video ref will make decions on GAME CHANGING INCEDENTS!

GCI's are:
Over the line / not over the line
Penalty / no penalty
Offside / Onside
Red card tackle / not a red card tackle

End. No more; no less.

This is football we are talking about? The game where loads of blokes sit in pubs up and down the land discussing what went on with their mates? Where TV programmes show endless video clips of wrong decisions? A video ref will end all this. We will have nothing to chat about.

"Did you see that handball Dave?"
"It was never a handba...oh wait it was as the video ref gave it 10 seconds after the event".

Do you want a game like that? Do you? Stop start? Decisions made by a bloke in front of a monitor?

The only thing I would change is the goal line stuff and even then I'd keep it simple. We don't need cameras and technology. All we need is something that an old bloke has come up with and that is...

A slight slope just behind the goal. 10-15 degrees will do it. If the ball hits beyond the goal line then it will roll into the net. On the line then it will behave as normal. Simple.

No risk of injury there? Goalkeepers will be falling into the net for penalties. I'm assuming this slope would be in a position where ALL the ball has crossed the line otherwise you're getting into a situation of ensuring a goal is scored when previously it wasn't i.e. ball hits post & rolls just over the line (the point of contact of the ball with the ground doesn't mean it's a goal - it possible for a ball to be touching the ground over the line but the ball is still in play) even though the whole ball has yet to cross the line. Players are also allowed to be behind the line but still keep the ball in play.

 

[Gultgult]

The so called 'professional ' officials shud open their eyes I rek

 

[Josh Blue]

We don't need goal line technology...

Stadiums are flooded with video cameras.

Hahahahahahahahahaha - you're on a windup aren't you?

Aguero's overhead pass for Silva to score in the City v Swansea game at the Etihad this season - in or out of play?

-- Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:59 pm --

There is no con to having a video ref for big decsions.

Another on a windup?

City score a perfectly good goal ruled out by a faceless official in the stands for any number of made up reasons (there was a push in the build up, a forward impedes a defender off the ball...) & you see no harm in this? Define a big decision.

Pens,offside goals,goal line issues, red cards, off the ball.

DONE!

 

[Jumanji]

We don't need goal line technology...

Stadiums are flooded with video cameras.

Hahahahahahahahahaha - you're on a windup aren't you?

Aguero's overhead pass for Silva to score in the City v Swansea game at the Etihad this season - in or out of play?

In play. I have the match and I'm looking at it right now.

 

[CBlue]

We don't need goal line technology...

Stadiums are flooded with video cameras.

Hahahahahahahahahaha - you're on a windup aren't you?

Aguero's overhead pass for Silva to score in the City v Swansea game at the Etihad this season - in or out of play?

-- Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:59 pm --

There is no con to having a video ref for big decsions.

Another on a windup?

City score a perfectly good goal ruled out by a faceless official in the stands for any number of made up reasons (there was a push in the build up, a forward impedes a defender off the ball...) & you see no harm in this? Define a big decision.

Pens,offside goals,goal line issues, red cards, off the ball.

DONE!

Penalties? So you stop play everytime the players are in the box? If the ref thought there was a penalty then he would award one - if he didn't then he won't. Are you suggesting that someone else should be refereeing the game? If so, how would this faceless referee get the actual referee to stop the game & when? The VR would have to review the incident - how long do you give him? If he says that there was a penalty incident - what happens to the time that elapsed since the foul took place, the VR informing the "actual" referee & the ref pulling play back? What happens if the opposition go down the other end & score? Can the team who conceded a penalty request that the ref look at a penalty incident of their own that happened 5 minutes/10 minutes before this incident? If not, why not?

Last minute of the Derby - anyone of Nani/Rooney/Young/Wellbeck are practicing their highboard routine in our box - ref plays on - City go down the other end of the pitch & score - VR (on a backhander) decides that the blade of grass that one of these cunts fell over, was stepped on by a City player a few seconds before - it's a penalty. Cancel City goal - give united a penalty. Ref on the pitch can't do anything, no point complaining to him - no-one knows who gave the decision. All perfectly acceptable? This is what you are asking for. It's a cheats charter.

 

[Jumanji]

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You're being facetious now.

 

[CBlue]

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You're being facetious now.

In what way? That is exactly what is being requested - unless you know different?

 

[Dubai Blue]

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You're being facetious now.

He's not being facetious; he's being entirely realistic. And, thankfully, these are the kind of scenarios that will be invetsigated in minute detail before any decision is made on introducing technology, because they're not just going to do it on a whim.

No one has yet managed to answer that pressing question of what happens to the events during the time elapsed before a decision is made. Maybe it's unlikely that the other team would make it up to the other end and score in the time it would take to get a decision, but what about a two-footed lunge/professional foul resulting in a red card or a 2nd yellow for handball? If you go back and allow a goal/award a penalty, are you saying these things never actually happened? But in reality they did. Or did they? Who knows?

And what about the actual time that elapses? We've played on so does it count as being part of the 90 mins? Or do we cancel it out because we've pulled the game back to award a penalty? How many times do we do this in a game?

And you can't say we'll just have a video ref for the 'big, important' decisions, because when a goal is involved every single law of the game becomes equally big and important. The fact that the ball crossed the line is no more important than the fact that the attacker was trying to rip the shirt off the defender's back. I find it incredible that some people honestly believe a video ref should be able to watch a replay and rule on whether the ball crossed the line or not, but he can't adjudicate on a blatant foul that happened in the very same frame he is watching. How is that fair? If you have a video ref, he has to be able to rule on all laws of the game, which is why it will never happen; it would be sheer chaos.

Football is not rugby, cricket, gridiron, tennis, snooker...............it does not have natural breaks and there are so many different variables that have to be considered when awarding a goal. It would be completely unworkable.

The only technology that could work in football would be real-time tech, which is what they're actually looking at. Video refs will never happen, and if they did, we'd all be scrambling for a return back to the 'good old days'.<br /><br />-- Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:50 am --<br /><br />

All we need is something that an old bloke has come up with and that is...

A slight slope just behind the goal. 10-15 degrees will do it. If the ball hits beyond the goal line then it will roll into the net. On the line then it will behave as normal. Simple.

Nice try Bob. You almost had me there.

 

[mancity1]

A sport that I never thought would require the use of Video replay to review certain incidents is AFL the most popular from of football here in oz.

In the recent pre season competition just about to be completed the use of video technology for the first was used to adjucate on various incidents mainly focussing on whether a goal should be given when doubt arises.

For those not familiar with AFL it is a contact sport where outside the scoring of a goal , point or when the ball crosses the boundary line for what it is termed a throw the play is in constant motion.

The game is actually quicker than the game of football in terms of how quickly the ball moves as the ball can be bounced by hand and handled by by every player on the field and every player can kick the ball over 50 metres

The average midfielder covers around 12-16km per game but any player can leave the field for a break anytime.

While there are a few teething problems with the introduction of video technology on certain rulings I must say the trial was overwhelming success for a game in terms of natural breaks and not stop action would not usually lend itself for video technology.

I am more convinced than ever that simple video technology would have meant the goal not given for QPR would have been without any dramas or significant consequences to what may or may not have happened afterwards.

Its the quickest and easiest and safest way to ensure these decisions are got right.

Bring it on I say.