Grealish left out of the CWC squad (pg34)

[thegoatsthegoat]

Maybe Jack has a lot on his plate at the moment and Pep left him out for a reason other than football and that City wants to sell him, We don't know what is happening in Jack's life at the moment, all we can say is the playing time he's had this season was poor and limited.

Yes, we have seen bits in the media and Jack's lifestyle popping up and out on the lash, but also he's had a big change in his life, having a baby. Since the birth of Jack's baby, he's not been the player we all know. also injury and being out of the team did not help

Look, Jack is a great player, the treble season was his best season at City, who wouldn't party and celebrate long and hard after that moment?

I just find it a puzzle for a player of Jack's quality to fall off the cliff so quickly, maybe mental health and drink problems, or family matters? I just find it strange that it's come to this. City and Pep would have cut anybody else off and moved them out quickly if it were just down to a lifestyle and not training properly

Come on Jack, prove us all wrong and the shut the doubters up WE WANT THE JACK GREALISH SMILE BACK IN A CITY SHIRT
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His quality didn't fall off a cliff. We have a manager who no longer fancied him and on occasions chose to belittle him at the possible expense of the team. When Jack played last year he had a few really good cameos and in other games was alright. Absolutely no worse than a lot of the shit we was loyal to last year who got minutes. I'd be surprised if Jack played back to back games with most of his minutes being 20 here or there. No consistent minutes to build up momentum or confidence. No problem if that is how Pep sees it other than using him on the bench with no desire to play him towards the end and Jack's time has come to an end for very clearly off the field reasons.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Maybe Jack has a lot on his plate at the moment and Pep left him out for a reason other than football and that City wants to sell him, We don't know what is happening in Jack's life at the moment, all we can say is the playing time he's had this season was poor and limited.

Yes, we have seen bits in the media and Jack's lifestyle popping up and out on the lash, but also he's had a big change in his life, having a baby. Since the birth of Jack's baby, he's not been the player we all know. also injury and being out of the team did not help

Look, Jack is a great player, the treble season was his best season at City, who wouldn't party and celebrate long and hard after that moment?

I just find it a puzzle for a player of Jack's quality to fall off the cliff so quickly, maybe mental health and drink problems, or family matters? I just find it strange that it's come to this. City and Pep would have cut anybody else off and moved them out quickly if it were just down to a lifestyle and not training properly

Come on Jack, prove us all wrong and the shut the doubters up WE WANT THE JACK GREALISH SMILE BACK IN A CITY SHIRT
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My guess, and that’s what we are all doing is.

Jack likes a drink and from what we’ve seen he likes, a heads spinning, where the fuck am I kind of drink.

Jack has great ball retention but playing on the left IMO hasn’t been beneficial for his time at City. When on the rare occasion he’s played a more central midfield role he seems to have played better.

Everyone seems to think Jack is a nice lad, me included but some people can’t take a drink and don’t know when to stop. Jack might be that type.

I hope Jack gets what he wants to make him happy. Even if it’s away from City and that’s looking more and more likely.

 

[waspish]

No one’s going to pay a bean for Grealish when you look at his contract of around 35/40m in wages left on his contract!

Any team even offering at 4 years contract will only offer him 200K a week max!

A loan with us playing at least half his wages with and option to buy for 20m is the best option we could hope for

 

[bobom]

Cancelo

Danilo.

 

[1dart]

He was great in the treble season, especially in the CL matches where we had to keep the ball. His best performance was Atleti away. But Jack has fallen off a cliff on and off the field. A lot of British players seem to struggle with their lifestyles and don't stay at the top for long. There are some exceptions of course (Frank Lampard etc) but they seem rare.

We didn’t play Atleti in the treble season did we, and when we did the season before did he even get on the pitch? Remember him pulling Savic’s hair like and calling him a **** though hahaha

 

[ancoats]

My guess, and that’s what we are all doing is.

Jack likes a drink and from what we’ve seen he likes, a heads spinning, where the fuck am I kind of drink.

Jack has great ball retention but playing on the left IMO hasn’t been beneficial for his time at City. When on the rare occasion he’s played a more central midfield role he seems to have played better.

Everyone seems to think Jack is a nice lad, me included but some people can’t take a drink and don’t know when to stop. Jack might be that type.

I hope Jack gets what he wants to make him happy. Even if it’s away from City and that’s looking more and more likely.

We all seem to be on the same page about Jack ? The drink and lifestyle
Jack, at 100% wanting the football and training hard, is a world-class player, but the drink has and will always have its victims in football, maybe it's a choice or maybe an illness.

But like I said, Pep would have got rid of him sharpish if it was just the lifestyle and drink,
It could be a Mental Illness issue or health issues, we don't know the full story and never will

 

[I'm With Stupid]

We didn’t play Atleti in the treble season did we, and when we did the season before did he even get on the pitch? Remember him pulling Savic’s hair like and calling him a **** though hahaha

I remember him making a nuisance of himself against them, but if I remember rightly, it was after coming on as a sub. I don't know which season it was though.

 

[ancoats]

Has Pep been asked why Jack isn't there?

Good question

Not seen any interviews yet from the World Club Cup, Maybe tomorrow somebody will ask him in the pre-match interview

 

[bennyboy]

My guess, and that’s what we are all doing is.

Jack likes a drink and from what we’ve seen he likes, a heads spinning, where the fuck am I kind of drink.

Jack has great ball retention but playing on the left IMO hasn’t been beneficial for his time at City. When on the rare occasion he’s played a more central midfield role he seems to have played better.

Everyone seems to think Jack is a nice lad, me included but some people can’t take a drink and don’t know when to stop. Jack might be that type.

I hope Jack gets what he wants to make him happy. Even if it’s away from City and that’s looking more and more likely.

He has not played better in a centre role though.No idea how some think that.
All his best performances have been on the left.

 

[1dart]

I remember him making a nuisance of himself against them, but if I remember rightly, it was after coming on as a sub. I don't know which season it was though.

You might be right mate, just can’t remember him being on the pitch, was right near the end when he pulled Savic’s hair and he was still a sub a that point.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Has Pep been asked why Jack isn't there?

You'd think it would be the first question.
Could easily have brought him and no one would be discussing it.

“It's a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma…” Churchill

 

[urban genie]

hopefully goes to napoli and has a great time and wins a title

 

[horlock_was_super]

Does this baby have a 666 birthmark and is called Damien by any chance. ?
Fucking hell the world have babies and have to get on with life in much more trying circumstances than Jack.

Yes, I can think of at least one proud father………

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

We didn’t play Atleti in the treble season did we, and when we did the season before did he even get on the pitch? Remember him pulling Savic’s hair like and calling him a **** though hahaha

Cant remember what season it was but it was a 0-0 draw and Jack was fantastic that night.

 

[Corky]

Cant remember what season it was but it was a 0-0 draw and Jack was fantastic that night.

As @1dart said he didn't play one minute. It is pure tripe.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

You might be right mate, just can’t remember him being on the pitch, was right near the end when he pulled Savic’s hair and he was still a sub a that point.

Just looked it up. He came on in the 58th minute in 2022. I definitely remember him drawing a lot of fouls against them and them getting annoyed at it. I do remember what you said though, so perhaps he was winding them up earlier in the game too from the sidelines. Or perhaps you're thinking of the 0-0 reverse fixture. That rings a bell, because it was in Spain and he didn't get on the pitch.

 

[johnny crossan]

As @1dart said he didn't play one minute. It is pure tripe.

He quickly joined in the pitchside action and took on Savic with some aplomb as I recall.

 

[Corky]

He quickly joined in the pitchside action and took on Savic with some aplomb as I recall.

Part of his issues, the ill discipline.

 

[Luddite_Blue]

The whole thing has me confused to be honest, People making posts saying things like "Pep destroyed his value" others saying "Jack is a great player", If you ever needed proof that the saying "The heart wants what it wants" is true, just look through the pages on this thread. You would think we were talking about centurions Sane or Sterling reading through this thread or prime Yaya, and the crazy thing is that these players who performed at the highest level get thrashed and torn down easily by the same posters building Jack up to some kind of legend status. Human psychology is a very interesting topic.

Yeah but that's the weird thing, isn't it? This is a thread about Jack so what's the point of saying "So a team that didn't win the CL is better than a team that did win the CL - that's the sort of mental gymnastics required on the Grealish threads." what does that have to do with anything?

I am assuming he is referring to my point about Jack receiving more adulation than the likes of Sterling and Yaya and I am guessing the poster is saying people are right to rate Jack more than those other two mentioned because they never won the CL and Jack won the CL. If that is indeed what the poster is referring to, then are we saying Jack is a better player than both Yaya and Sterling because Jack was in the team that won the CL? is that how football works now? Sigh, this fucking thread

Grealish doesn't receive more adulation than Yaya and Sterling and I'm not going to demean Yaya's name by mentioning him again in this grubby exchange.

This in your first post is completely made up:

"and the crazy thing is that these players who performed at the highest level get thrashed and torn down easily by the same posters building Jack up to some kind of legend status."
Where are there any posts building up Grealish AND thrashing and tearing down Sterling?

If you write the below whilst constantly lambasting Grealish, it does raise the question of the CL, doesn't it matter? Is winning it completely arbitrary? Grealish deservedly took his place in a City team that played an extremely high level of football, arguably the highest ever seen in England, winning 3 Premier Leagues, 1 Champions League, 1 FA Cup, 1 UEFA Super Cup and 1 FIFA Club World Cup so if you're going to look down on that, then for me, there has to be a CL included.

"You would think we were talking about centurions Sane or Sterling reading through this thread "

 

[Luddite_Blue]

Winning the CL requires a great bit of luck. Look at Madrid or Chelsea for that matter!
And I would die on the hill that Centurion should have won at least a CL and those legends in Silva and Aguero at least deserved that.

So attributing the CL to Grealish is a wrong parameter to justify his value.
He was lucky to be part of a treble winning team and everyone was part of it.

If Akanji hadn’t place that forward pass to Bilva where his cut back went to Rodri or Ederson who made that last min save we wouldn’t be talking about that CL win.

They delivered on their transfer fee and then some. Grealish didn’t. He is a nice chap and deserves a nice farewell but let’s not rewrite history.

Pep picked Grealish over a period of 3 seasons. It's staggering how the Grealish threads attract all these posters who know better than one of the greatest footballing minds of all time

If Grealish didn't deserve to be in the team then surely in the top level of the most popular sport on the planet that would show itself in the team's results. Whilst in fact, the opposite was the case.

There's a whole host of coincidences with Jack for those who post repeatedly implying he was some sort of liability. CL not won before he arrived, He didn't play in the cup final defeat to the rags which Rodri started. In fact, he started 1 FA cup final which was won; didn't start in 2 FA cup finals which were lost. Started 1 PL defeat in the past 2 seasons. Started 12 out of 13 of the CL games leading up to the CL win including all the knockout games.

Grealish deservedly had a place in a team playing an extremely high level of football that pinned opponents back for long periods of time to the extent that they couldn't get out. Teams just do not beat the best sides in Germany, Spain and Italy every season - there was absolutely nothing lucky about Grealish's part in it.